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Will Rapture take place at sixth seal or seventh Trumpet? – S.S.

Will Rapture take place at sixth seal or seventh Trumpet?

Dec 23, 2019 9:24 PM
S.S.
Rapture will take place at seventh Trumpet and not sixth seal.
Matthew 24:30-31 is Rapture verse.
See link below
Matthew 24:29 depicts signs before Rapture in Matthew 24:30-31
Matthew:24.29
 ” Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.
Similarity between sixth seal Rapture and seventh Trumpet Rapture 
1. Sun will be darkened-
Sixth seal
Revelation:6.12
 I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.
Sun is darkened at sixth seal
Seventh Trumpet
Revelation:8.12
 Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.
Revelation:9.2
 And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit.
Sun is darkened before Rapture takes place in Seventh Trumpet. (Matthew 24:30-31)
2. Stars of heaven will fall – It depicts asteroids falling on the Earth.
It also depicts falling of the heavenly hosts from heavenlies to Earth.( Isa 34:4)( Powers ( hosts)of the heaven will be shaken)
Sixth seal
Revelation:6.13
 And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind.
Seventh Trumpet
Revelation:8.10
 Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
Revelation:9.1
 Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.
3. Wrath has come
Sixth seal
Revelation:6.17
 “For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
Seventh Trumpet
Revelation:11.18
 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
The reasons why Rapture will not take place at sixth seal.
1. Moon turns blood – Moon is turned blood in Rev 6:12.
But when we carefully study Matthew 24:29 ( it depicts signs before Rapture in Matthew 24:30:31) , then you find that it says , ” Moon will not give its light”
which means that Moon will be darkened. Moon is not darkened at sixth seal but gives blood light ( Rev 6:12)
Moon is darkened at forth Trumpet
Revelation:8.12
 Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.
Moon darkening is sign mentioned in Matthew 24: 29 before Rapture in Matthew 24:30-31.
So if moon darkening sign is not fulfilled at sixth seal which means that Rapture cannot take place at sixth seal.
Moon darkening sign is fulfilled at Fourth Trumpet before Rapture at seventh Trumpet.
2. Palm branches depicts Martydom-
According to sixth seal Rapture believers, the company of saints mentioned in Rev 7:9-14 are Raptured Christians.
It is wrong. Carefully study Rev 7:9
Revelation:7.9
 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 
In western Christian art, martyrs were often shown holding a palm frond as an attribute, representing the victory of spirit over flesh, and it was widely believed that a picture of a palm on a tomb meant that a martyr was buried there.
See the link below which depicts gallery of martyres holding palm branches. You will be shocked to see that.
antichrist will be given authority over every tribe, tongue and nation.( Rev 13:7). He kill Christians from every nation, tongue and tribe during great tribulation ( Rev 13:5) These company of  martyres with palm branches is gathered up in Rev 7:9. They come out from great tribulation which is reigned by antichrist ( Rev 7:14).
3. No Trumpet– In sixth seal opening, there is no mention of trumpet.
Trumpet is connected to Rapture. ( 1 Thess 4:16, Matthew 24:31, 1 Cor 15:52)
4. Number 6- Numbers in Bible communicate significant messages.
Sixth seal has number 6.
Number 6 depicts imperfection, weakness and sin of man.
Man was created on sixth day.
Number 6 depicts corruptible sin nature of man as man falls short of Glory of God.
666 depicts mark of beast.
At Rapture , our corruptible sin nature( depicted by Number 6) will be removed and we will be perfected.(1 Cor 15:52-53)
Perfection is depicted by Number 7.
At Seventh Trumpet, we will be perfected.

The reasons why Rapture will take place at seventh Trumpet

Matthew:24.29
” Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

Sun will be darkened, moon will be darkened and stars will fall from heaven.
These signs will take place before Rapture in Matthew 24:30-31.

1. Sun darkened– The sun is darkened in Rev 6:12, Rev 8:12 and Rev 9:2.
This sign is fulfilled before Seventh Trumpet.
2. Moon darkened– Moon is darkened only at Fourth Trumpet and not at sixth seal
Revelation:8.12
Then the fourth angel sounded: And a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day did not shine, and likewise the night.
3. Stars will fall from heaven – Stars of heaven depicts asteroids or meteor falling on the Earth depicted in Rev 8:10-11
Revelation 8 .10
Then the third angel sounded: And a great star fell from heaven, burning like a torch, and it fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water.
Revelation:8.11
The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters became wormwood, and many men died from the water, because it was made bitter.

Stars of heaven falling also depicts hosts of the heaven falling on the Earth depicted in Rev 9:1-2.
Revelation:9.1
Then the fifth angel sounded: And I saw a star fallen from heaven to the earth. To him was given the key to the bottomless pit.
Revelation:9.2
And he opened the bottomless pit, and smoke arose out of the pit like the smoke of a great furnace. So the sun and the air were darkened because of the smoke of the pit.

All these signs take place before Rapture at seventh Trumpet.
These signs are also depicted in the following verses
Isaiah:13.10
For the stars of heaven and their constellations Will not give their light; The sun will be darkened in its going forth, And the moon will not cause its light to shine.
Ezekiel:32.7
When [I] put out your light, I will cover the heavens, and make its stars dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, And the moon shall not give her light.
Ezekiel:32.8
All the bright lights of the heavens I will make dark over you, And bring darkness upon your land,’ Says the Lord GOD.

4. Last Trumpet – Rapture will take place at last Trumpet
1 Corinthians:15.52
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
The last Trumpet mentioned in the book of Revelation is Seventh Trumpet.
Who will blow the trumpet?

Many Christians says that Lord Jesus Himself will blow the trumpet and not angel.

They give Zech 9:14 as a proof.

We must study Zech 9:14 to know whether it is related to Rapture or not.

Zechariah:9.14

 Then the LORD will be seen over them, And His arrow will go forth like lightning. The Lord GOD will blow the trumpet, And go with whirlwinds from the south.

When I studied this Scripture , I got know that this verse used for Rapture is out of context.

Zech 9:13 depicts raising of sons of Zion for war against sons of Greece.

In Zech 9:14,

Lord will seen over them means that Lord will appear as cloud over Israel to encourage them for war ( Exodus 14:24)

And His arrow will go forth like lightening depicts that Lord will fought war for Israel and strike enemy with arrows( Psalm 18:14)

Lord GOD will blow the trumpet depicts that Lord is captain of their army (2 Chronicles 13:12).

And go with whirlwind from South

are most destructive as depicted in Isa 21:1 and Job 21:1. This whirlwind will cause great destruction to the enemies.

Zech 9:15 depicts Israel’s celebration over victory on his enemies.

Let us now study 1 Thess 4:16

1 Thessalonians:4.16

 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.

Lord Jesus will descend from heaven with the Trumpet of God.

It doesn’t says Lord Jesus Christ Himself blows the Trumpet.

The Trumpet for Rapture will be blown by Seventh angel.

The sixth seal Rapture believers also says that Lord Jesus Christ voice is as of a trumpet ( Rev 1:10 ,4:1).

But Lord Jesus Christ voice is as sound of many waters depicted in Rev 1:15

Revelation:1.15
 His feet [were] like fine brass, as if refined in a furnace, and His voice as the sound of many waters; 
The voice as of a trumpet in Rev 1:10 and Rev 4:1 is of angel mentioned in Rev 1:1
5. Mystery – Mystery is connected to Rapture in 1 Cor 15:51-52
1 Corinthians:15.51
 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed —
1 Corinthians:15.52
 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
Mystery about Rapture will be finished at seventh Trumpet.
Revelation:10.7
 but in the days when the seventh angel is about to sound, the mystery of God would be finished, as He declared to His servants the prophets.
6. Seal of the Holy Spirit- Sixth Seal Rapture believers says that only 144,000 Israelites believers will be protected after sixth believers as depicted in Rev 9:4
Revelation:9.4
 They were commanded not to harm the grass of the earth, or any green thing, or any tree, but only those men who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.
But we forget that Christians have seal of the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians:1.13
 In Him you also [trusted,] after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 
Ephesians:4.30
 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
2 Corinthians:1.22
 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
We Christians and 144,000 Israelites will be hidden under the wings of Lord .( Zephaniah 2:2-3)
7. Number 7- Seventh Trumpet has number 7 .
Number 7 is related to Rapture
1. Enoch– Enoch was seventh from Adam( Jude 1:14) , he was raptured ( Gen 5:24)
Jude:1.14
 Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, “Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints,
Genesis:5.24
 And Enoch walked with God; and he [was] not, for God took him.
2. God is perfect- Number 7 depicts perfection of God.
At Sevnth Trumpet Rapture , we shall be perfect like God.( 1 John 3:2)
1 John:3.2
 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 
3. Incorruptible – Number 7 depicts incorruptible and perfection .
At Rapture, our corruptible sin nature ( depicted by Number 6) will be changed to incorruptible nature.
Mortal changed to immortal.
1 Corinthians:15.52
 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1 Corinthians:15.53
 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality.
Proclamation of the seventh Trumpet
One of the basic principle of Bible is that we first proclaim things and then it will happen as depicted in Romans 10:9 and 2 Cor 4:13-14.
Proclaim 1 –  The kingdom of this world have become the kingdom of our Lord and His Christ and He shall reign forever and ever.
Revelation:11.15
 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become [the kingdoms] of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!”
Revelation:11.17
 saying: “We give You thanks, O Lord God Almighty, The One who is and who was and who is to come, Because You have taken Your great power and reigned.
It is fulfilled in Rev 19,20 and 21
Proclaim 2 -The nations were angry and wrath has come.
Revelation 11:18
 The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth.”
Nations were angry because they have to face now full strength of wrath in form of seven bowls of the wrath of God ( Rev 15:1)and Second coming ( Rev 19)
Proclaim 3 – Dead be judged.
Dead in Christ will be judged at Judgement seat of Christ and Rev 20:4-5.
Dead are also judged in Rev 20:12-15.
Proclaim 4- Servants be rewarded
Servants will be rewarded at Judgement seat of Christ after Rapture and at second coming ( Matthew 24:34)
Matthew:25.34
 “Then the King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Proclaim 5- Destroy those who destroy Earth.
It is fulfilled with wrath of God on antichrist, false prophet, dragon and their followers.( Seven bowls of wrath of God, Second coming, Gog and Magog, Great White Judgement, Lake of fire)

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17 Comments

  1. Thank you very much for sharing.

  2. JK

    This is false and of “out of contextual” conclusion! Matthew 24 was about tribulations which has been occurring all over the world until this time, but not the GREAT TRIBULATION which Daniel 12:1 made it very clear about the latter that is something the world has not ever seen before. Read it again. I really can’t understand why this was posted in the first place in here because it just sends confusion aboundantly even more so. After viewing many posts in here they are in drastic contradiction based on what God shows them about this subject where the number of them dwarfs this. “God is not the author of confusion”….

  3. William

    This isn’t prophecy, this is your opinion.truth is NO ONE knows the day or hour.You are taking peoples hope.I will always have hope in the Lord’s return.

  4. Crying in the Wilderness

    To all with ears to hear,

    Looking at the comments lately makes me very sad. Read what Paul told Timothy about the people in the latter days. What we have here is just a microcosm of the situation all around the country, and around the world – fits Paul’s words to a “T”.

    I was led to read Micah; read it. Here is the entire 3rd chapter:

    1 And I said:

    “Hear now, O heads of Jacob,
    And you rulers of the house of Israel:
    Is it not for you to know justice?
    2 You who hate good and love evil;
    Who strip the skin from My people,
    And the flesh from their bones;
    3 Who also eat the flesh of My people,
    Flay their skin from them,
    Break their bones,
    And chop them in pieces
    Like meat for the pot,
    Like flesh in the caldron.”
    4 Then they will cry to the Lord,
    But He will not hear them;
    He will even hide His face from them at that time,
    Because they have been evil in their deeds.
    5 Thus says the Lord concerning the prophets
    Who make my people stray;
    Who chant “Peace”
    While they chew with their teeth,
    But who prepare war against him
    Who puts nothing into their mouths:
    6 “Therefore you shall have night without vision,
    And you shall have darkness without divination;
    The sun shall go down on the prophets,
    And the day shall be dark for them.
    7 So the seers shall be ashamed,
    And the diviners abashed;
    Indeed they shall all cover their lips;
    For there is no answer from God.”
    8 But truly I am full of power by the Spirit of the Lord,
    And of justice and might,
    To declare to Jacob his transgression
    And to Israel his sin.
    9 Now hear this,
    You heads of the house of Jacob
    And rulers of the house of Israel,
    Who abhor justice
    And pervert all equity,
    10 Who build up Zion with bloodshed
    And Jerusalem with iniquity:
    11 Her heads judge for a bribe,
    Her priests teach for pay,
    And her prophets divine for money.
    Yet they lean on the Lord, and say,
    “Is not the Lord among us?
    No harm can come upon us.”
    12 Therefore because of you
    Zion shall be plowed like a field,
    Jerusalem shall become heaps of ruins,
    And the mountain of the temple
    Like the bare hills of the forest.

    Pray for HIS discernment, because these words are being played out before our very eyes right now.

    A brother.

  5. Mark Malmin

    Instead of focusing on saving souls you are focusing on man-made doctrine and opinion and your ability to interpret scripture when others cannot. Those of us who believe in a pre-tribulation rapture are not lost souls, and we don’t need your hubristic doctrinal teaching to help God save us from differing views and interpretations of scripture, brother.
    It’s presumptuous to assume your analytics are correct when there are other verses that completely dispel your theory.
    Rev 4:1 also speaks of a trumpet and being called up, and it’s not linked to the 6th or 7th trumpet during the tribulation. You ignored this, brother. Rev 4:4 speaks of the 24 elders who were in heaven. How could they be there if they are waiting to be raptured later in the tribulation at the 7th seal ? There are a ton of other versers you have ignored. Please don’t assume you have this all figured out; you don’t. Matt 24:42 and Matt 25:13

  6. Paul said, we will be taken by the last trumpet, so it’s clear.

  7. Paul Morgan

    S.S

    JK WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID, “This is false and of “out of contextual” conclusion! Matthew 24 was about tribulations which has been occurring all over the world until this time, but not the GREAT TRIBULATION which Daniel 12:1 made it very clear about the latter that is something the world has not ever seen before. Read it again. I really can’t understand why this was posted in the first place in here because it just sends confusion aboundantly even more so.”

    S.S. – You Are Taking Verses OUT OF CONTEXT

    Look At Revelation Chapter 9

    1. And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
    2. And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
    3. And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
    4. And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
    5. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, BUT THAT THEY SHOULD BE TORMENTED FIVE MONTHS: AND THEIR TORMENT WAS AS THE TORMENT OF A SCORPION, WHEN HE STRIKETH A MAN.

    6. And in those days shall MEN SEEK DEATH, AND SHALL NOT FIND IT, AND SHALL DESIRE TO DIE, AND DEATH SHALL FLEE FROM THEM.”

    And, Again GOD THE FATHER BLOWS THE LAST TRUMPET IN ZECHARIAH 9:14

  8. Bella

    This isn’t true it happens at the 6th seal – This happens before the Tribulation starts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ6FL_DKR20

  9. Alice R

    Jesus Christ returns on the 7th seal
    On the 7th Trumpet,
    & on the 7th vial. Notice they are the same. Some go at a faster speed
    but they end the same

  10. Nico

    1 Joh 2 . 16/17/18/19

    children of God know THE truth!

    He would do nothing without to say HIS children wat HE is going to do!

    His children expect HIM NOW
    These are ready for HIS coming they have enough oil en THE lamps on!!!!!!!

    Buy yourselves oil they there now not expect HIM! You cant get Some from us , because maby we dont have anough.

    Its a BIG warning!

  11. darres

    You are right! After plenty of work,
    I have come into same conclusions than you. We need to study ourselves, and to
    not believe pastor or Greek church-fathers” or anyone else. The Holy Spirit who has written the Word is the only one who can also reveal it to us!
    Thank you for commenting.
    Darres – overseas.

  12. do you see anything strange?

    S.S. should not post anymore. Worse daily.

  13. BR COLLINS

    Whether you believe in PRETRIB OR MID TRIB OR POST TRIB that does not matter.What matters and the most important thing is to ensure your soul is ever ready anytime anyday anywhere and that you aim to win as many soul as possible to Christ.I personally have got no problem with Christ delaying or coming today,tommorow for I AM EVER READY FOR HIM.

  14. Nohemy B-

    Creo lo que ha revelado Dios, porque él no miente
    Además usted no se identifica plenamente y lo que pretende es sembrar discordia

  15. JHAE

    Those who believe in post tribulation rapture are mentally physically and spiritually prepared for what’s coming when events all over the earth gets worse
    As for the pretribulation believers I don’t think they are spiritually and mentally prepared when things get worse all over world and there’s no rapture

    Whatever happens let’s keep our focus on Jesus

  16. Pete

    The book of truth is open (mostly Daniel 11) and shows us how Matthew 24, Rev 6&7 and Daniel match up to give us an accurate timeline.
    I like what your writing but we’re now at Dan 11:31, awaiting the set up and abomination which a great earthquake at the sixth seal and the great multitude in Heaven (Rapture) then the final 2300 days of tribulation. Repent and be saved, time is very short…

  17. GUSTAVUS ADOLPHUS

    The Olivet Discourse of Math. 24 is Jesus talking to the JEWS about the SECOND ADVENT NOT to Christians about the rapture, a doctrine given to Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles, years later. Paul told us to look for the Blessed Hope, Jesus, not the Anti-Christ; that we were not appointed unto wrath but the Jews were, Rom.5:9, 9:22; 1 Thes. 1:10; 2:16; 5:9; Eph. 2:3. Therefore comfort one another with these words, 1Thes.4:18; 5:11; 2Thes.2:17; Titus 2:13. The tribulation is JACOB’S trouble and Daniel’s 70th Week. The 70 Weeks of Daniel were for “Jerusalem and your (Daniel’s) people”, the Jews, Dan. 9:24.

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