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Compilation of Prophetic Words: The “Great Rescue” – Wendi Lee

Compilation of Prophetic Words: The “Great Rescue”

Feb 2015 to March 2016
Wendi Lee
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Compilation of Prophetic Words: The “Great Rescue”

Given to Wendi Lee, “Urgent Words from the LORD” YouTube

[Note: See end of this word for the summary order of raptures – departures.]

Below is a compilation of 6 prophetic words from Wendi Lee from Feb 2015 to March 2016 all
containing references to the “Great Rescue” and other rapture events:

Daughter write my words for those that have ears to hear and eyes to see:
My children please hear me now, the Ark, the Great Rescue [Translation of 10% Bride / Children
– Jeremiah 50:45] is about to close. As in the days of Noah so it will be in the coming of the Son
of the Living God. My Ark provides shelter from the evil one who comes.
[Noah’s timeline – 17 th day of the 2 nd month – Ark’s door closed]

My children, if you miss my Great Rescue, I have had my messengers prophets and
prophetesses post instructions on the internet. Once the governments get the electricity back
on please go to these messages you will find great help from me the great Jehovah. If you come
to me after my rapture [Departure during darkness – Hosea 6:2], than you will find places of
safety, which my Bride [super-naturally infused harvest workers] will lead you to. If you come to
me after I rapture my Bride [after 40 days – Matthew 24:31], you will be protected for I am a
merciful and gracious God. I will answer your pleas. It will be such a dark, dark evil time, but
your God will get you through. Even if you are left behind. You just cannot imagine the horrors
the earth is about to go through.

Will you be with Me in My Heavenlies when I come for My Great Rescue, or will you be left
behind? Choose, My Children, choose quickly, for you may not have another chance to come to
the Glorious Son of God before I close up My Era of Grace.

For I AM going to equip you with My Power. You will do great and mighty things for My
Kingdom. The time for the rapture will be after and during the climax of the birth pains, My
Loves. You will not know the day or the hour. It is for My Father alone to know this. I have many
Children thinking that My Great Rescue is going to take place any day now. No, My Loves, it
won‘t be until the appointed time after “some” of the great shaking occurs.

What does it matter if one thinks the rapture will be in a certain season, and another in a
different season. My Children of earth, these are irrelevant to My Faithful. If you belong to My
Son and completely surrender your all to Him, then you will be in My Son‘s Great Rescue. Only
I the Father knows when that will be.

Yeshua will be with each one of you, guiding you as His path is getting to be the narrowest. It
will ever be BEFORE I send Him for His Great Rescue. Events are about to be coming forth as
the peace agreement to divide My Land [Trump’s peace agreement?]; My Holy Land will be
signed. I will utter My many voices of thunder and mighty waters when this occurs. And WOE!
WOE! WOE! To those who sign that agreement.

Satan is a lion waiting to Kill Steal and Destroy. He cares nothing for humanity. He hates
everything that I God of All represent. Children if you are left behind after I rapture, or rescue
my true church. Woe to you. Woe to the mothers with child. Woe to the men who rejected me.This is all written in my words. It is coming to pass. There will be FEMA Camps that will take
people in and they will never come out. If you are a true witness for me you will be treated
unmercifully and be tortured and beheaded.

My Holy and Only Begotten Son will be seen, and every eye shall behold Him, not only when He
comes the second time, but when I send Him for His Awaiting Bride [Elect Harvest workers –
Matthew 24:31]. All will know who took their spouses, and parents, and other family members.
All will know, My Saints. There is nothing that won‘t be revealed. Father will not tell you how
long they will see Him in the clouds meeting you, His Bride, in the air [1 st Thes 4:17 – Left
Behind]. This is directly in My Word, but has been continuously misconstrued because My
Children do not consult Me, as they read My Word. My Saints, the world will be completely
deceived by satan and his minions; for he will deceptively say that My Son was an alien come
from a distant planet, and the world is going to believe his lying and deceiving ways and
persuasions. Every eye will see, but not every eye will believe. It is so important to be in My
Holy Word, My Saints.

See below for the order of the departure – raptures:

  1. Translation of the 144,000 or remnant Bride for training and orientation through the narrow door before the Great Rescue and about the same time the “Peace Treaty” to divide the land is being discussed. (This could happen at any minute – Micah 2:12-13, Isaiah 10:20-22)
  2. The Great Rescue for the innocents – children and [10%] Bride of Christ (Jeremiah 50:45, Hosea 5:14, Micah 4:6, Luke 17:34-35, Jeremiah 31:6-8, John 14:3)
  3. Rapture of the “True Church” during and just after the “birth pangs” – Planet X fly-by
    most likely during the 3 days of darkness. (Hosea 6:2, Micah 4:10)
  4. Rapture of the LORD’s ‘awaiting Bride” after the 40 days of harvest of the many, this is the ‘rapture’ of the Elect of God, the harvesting army from Matthew 24:31, Zech 9:14-16, 1 st Thes 4:17 – Left Behind, Micah 7:2 [After the rapture].Multiple Departure – Raptures: The Prophet Micah
See the progression of these events from the chapter & verse:

1- Translation of the Remnant – 144,000:

Micah 2: 12 I will surely assemble all of you, O Jacob; [Representatives from ALL 12 Tribes]
I will gather the remnant of Israel; [1 st Fruits gathering for orientation]
I will set them together like sheep in a fold, like a flock in its pasture, a noisy multitude of
men. 13 He [Jesus] who opens the breach goes up before them;
they break through and pass the [narrow] gate, going out by it. Their king [Jesus] passes on
before them, [Jesus going up ahead of the Remnant] the Lord at their head.
Matthew 7: 13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that
leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. 14 For the gate is narrow and
the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
Isaiah 10: 20 In that day the remnant of Israel and the survivors [week & the needy] of the
house of Jacob will no more lean on him who struck them, but will lean on the Lord, the Holy
One of Israel [Yeshua], in truth. 21 A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty
God [in Heaven]. 22 For though your people Israel be as the sand of the sea [billions and
billions], only a remnant of them will return [to Heaven]. Destruction is decreed, overflowing
with righteousness.

2- The GREAT Rescue:

Micah 4: 6 In that day, declares the Lord,
I will assemble the lame [1 st Fruits translated-rescued to Heavenly Mt. Zion – Father’s House]
and gather those who have been driven away
and those whom I have afflicted;
7 and the lame I will make the remnant,
and those who were cast off, a strong nation;
and the Lord will reign over them in Mount Zion [Heavenly Mt. Zion – Rev 7:9]
from this time forth and forevermore.
Jeremiah 31: 8 Behold, I will bring them from the north country
and gather them from the farthest parts of the earth,
among them the blind and the lame,
the pregnant woman and she who is in labor, together;
a great company, they shall return here. [To Mt. Zion – in Heaven]
9 With weeping they shall come,
and with pleas for mercy I will lead them back,
I will make them walk by brooks of water,
in a straight path in which they shall not stumble,
for I am a father to Israel,and Ephraim is my firstborn. [Ephraim is the 1 st Fruits Company – Christians]
12 They shall come and sing aloud on the height of Zion,
and they shall be radiant over the goodness of the Lord,
Hosea 5: 14 For I will be like a lion to Ephraim [USA],
and like a young lion to the house of Judah [Modern Day Israel].
I, even I, will tear and go away; [Great Rescue of little children and un-born babies]
I will carry off, and no one shall rescue.
15 I will return again to my place, [Heavenly Mt. Zion – Jeremiah 31:6-14, Zech 8:3]
until they acknowledge their guilt and seek my face,
and in their distress earnestly seek me.
Jeremiah 50: [in Babylon] 44 “Behold, like a LION coming up from the thicket of the Jordan… For
who is like me? What shepherd [pastor-rabbi] can stand before me? 45 Therefore hear THE
PLAN that the Lord has made against Babylon… Surely the little ones [children] of their flock
shall be torn away [drawn-up] those left will be desolate… 46 At the sound of the capture of
Babylon the earth shall tremble…
Psalms 82: 3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the
destitute. 4 Rescue [snatch away] the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”
5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding, they walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
Luke 17: 24 For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will
the Son of Man be in his day. 25 But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this
generation. 26 Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man.
34 I tell you, in that night there will be two in one bed. One will be taken and the other
left. 35 There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left.”
37 And they said to him, “Where, Lord?” He said to them, “Where the body [of believers] is,
there the Eagles will gather.”

3- Rapture of the True Church:

Micah 4: 10 Writhe and groan, O daughter of Zion [Christians – foolish virgins],
like a woman in labor, for now you shall go out from the city
and dwell in the open country; you shall go to Babylon [USA]
There you shall be rescued; [Daughter of Zion – Church raptured – Zech 9:14-16]
there the Lord will redeem you from the hand of your enemies.
Hosea 6: 1 “Come, let us return to the Lord; [immediately, the 1 st left behind group cries out to
the Lord – and are saved]for he has torn us, that he may heal us;
he has struck us down, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days he will revive us; [2 nd day of darkness]
on the third day he will raise us up, [Rapture of the true Church – during 3 days of darkness]
that we may live before him. [Rev 7 multitude in front of the Throne]

4- The Rapture of the Awaiting Harvesting Bride –The Elect

Micah 7: Woe is me! For I have become
as when the summer fruit has been gathered,
as when the grapes have been gleaned:
there is no cluster to eat, no first-ripe fig that my soul desires.
2 The godly has perished [disappeared – vanished] from the earth,
and there is no one upright among mankind;
they all lie in wait for blood, and each hunts the other with a net.
Zechariah 9: 14 Then the Lord will appear over them,
and his arrow will go forth like lightning; [See Ps. 18:14 & 144:6 – Arrows being sent out!]
the Lord God will sound the trumpet
and will march forth in the whirlwinds of the south.
16 Onthat day the Lord their God will save them,
as the flock of His people; for like the jewels of a crown
they shall shine on his land.
1 st Thes 4:16 For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the
voice of an archangel, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will
rise first. 17 Then we who are alive, who are left [behind], will be caught up together with
them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.
Matthew 24: 30 Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of
the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with
power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they
will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

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17 Comments

  1. Hi Jonathan – thank you for posting this…others have had similar words…I will send them to you also to post if you are led…God Bless – Time is Short

  2. Armando Felix

    Thank you for this comforting word. I agree with it. Zech 4:12 the glory of the Lord on the harvest workers. Thank you Brother Tim Foster for all you ministered to the body of Christ. I have bit and pieces. And now all is coming together surely the Lord is getting his 10 percent. Praise be to our Lord and King Jesus Christ.
    Amen. ✝️🔥☁️🚨🙏🙌🏼

    Leviticus 3:9 from the Lord

    Draw near to God, a slaughter to come in divine judgement to complete God’s anger. It shall come to pass I (ever) shall be (the same) that I am (today). The best of the fruits upright and altogether given to God.
    The end of the age has come turn aside, gather together shut the door. Bring the best of the fruits who’s sin is covered the best of the wheat bring near to me your God.

  3. Paul Morgan

    WENDI LEE – SORRY I DISAGREE WITH YOUR POSTING

    YOU HAVE TAKEN SCRIPTURE OUT OF CONTEXT.

    THERE IS ONLY ONE RAPTURE (AND, THEN THE TWO WITNESSES ARE CAUGHT UP TO HEAVEN A LITTLE LATER)

    BUT IN GOD’S HOLY WORD TIME AND TIME AGAIN YOU HAVE DELIVERANCE OF THE RIGHTEOUS & DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED!

    THERE IS NOT MULTIPLE RAPTURES!

  4. Gwendolen

    Not here to debate prophetic or Rhema words, but I just want to add this one comment…When people place God in a box out of their own human reasoning they have limited the beauty of His own imagination to rescue those who He stepped down from His Throne to save. The LORD has shown hundreds upon thousands of people across the world multiple raptures and even when my own pastor and Bible teachers rebuke me I do not come against them publicly or even privately. I just let God be God and I remain humble. God appreciates our humility when the other Christians continue to divide His flock. Satan’s kingdom is not divided. Even tho he is defeated he really gets a kick out of arguing over rapture doctrines. He just loves the spirit behind this!

  5. Paul Morgan

    WENDI LEE – Here Is The SCRIPTURAL BASIS Why I Disagree With YOUR DEMONIC POSITION – And, YES IT IS DEMONIC – STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL – JUST LIKE THE PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE!

    First, Matthew 24:3 JESUS’ Disciple ASKED HIM, “WHEN SHALL THESE THINGS BE? WHAT SHALL BE THE “SIGN” – “THE SIGN” – Of THY COMING, AND THE END OF THE WORLD?”

    The FIRST THING JESUS Said To Them, Matt 24:4, “TAKE HEED THAT NO MAN DECEIVE YOU.”

    In Matt Chapter 24 JESUS Proceeds To Lay Out The Chronological Order Of END TIME EVENTS. And, NO WHERE DOES JESUS EVEN HINT OF A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE”;

    Further, There Was A Posting A Few Days Ago Where “THE CHILDREN WOULD BE TAKEN FIRST IN A RAPTURE” – TOTALLY UNSCRIPTURAL!

    JESUS Tells Us (Matt 24:5-6) Many Shall Come In MY NAME, Saying I Am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

    Matt 24:6 – BUT THE END IS NOT YET!

    John 6:39, 40, 44, & 54, JESUS SAID, “I LOSE NOTHING BUT RAISE IT UP ON THE LAST DAY!”

    JESUS SAID THAT FOUR TIMES SO WE WOULD KNOW IT HAPPENS ON THE LAST DAY!

    Matt 24:8 – JESUS Explains The “BEGINNING OF SORROWS”

    Matt 24:9 – JESUS TOLD US, “THEN SHALL THEY DELIVER YOU UP TO BE AFFLICTED, AND SHALL KILL YOU: AND YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS FOR MY NAME’S SAKE.”

    Matt 24:13 – “BUT HE THAT SHALL ENDURE TO THE END, THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED.” – THIS IS JESUS SPEAKING – THE SON OF GOD!

    Matt 24:14 – THIS GOSPEL PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD THEN THEN SHALL THE END COME.”

    MATT 24:15 – JESUS SAID, “WHEN YE THEREFORE SHALL SEE THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION, SPOKEN OF BY DANIEL THE PROPHET, STAND IN THE HOLY PLACE, (WHOSO READETH, LET HIM UNDERSTAND:)

    ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION (DANIEL 11:31) Where The Antichrist Goes Into The Temple And DECLARES HIMSELF TO BE GOD!

    KEEP IN MIND – When The ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION HAPPENS – THE ANTICHRIST HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 3.5 YEARS!

    MATTHEW 24:21 – FOR THEN SHALL BE GREAT TRIBULATION

    MATTHEW 24:22 – THE ELECT ARE STILL HERE –

    QUESTION: WHO ARE THE ELECT?

    ANSWER: THE ELECT ARE EITHER JEW OR GENTILE THAT HAS ACCEPTED JESUS CHRIST AS LORD & SAVIOR!

    MATTHEW 24:27-31 – JESUS TELLS ABOUT “THE SIGN” (MATT 24:30) AND HIS (JESUS) COMING IN THE CLOUDS WHERE HE (JESUS) SENDS HIS ANGELS TO GATHER HIS “ELECT” – THIS IS THE RAPTURE!

    THE ONLY RAPTURE – EXCEPT FOR THE TWO WITNESSES (WHO ARE TOLD “COME UP HITHER”) AFTER THEY ARE KILLED!

    LOOK AT LUKE 17:26-30, JESUS SAID, ” AND AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF NOE (NOAH), SO SHALL IT BE ALSO IN THE DAYS OF THE SON OF MAN (JESUS REFERRED TO HIMSELF AS THE “SON OF MAN” 33 TIMES IN THE BOOK OF MATTHEW ALONE.

    LUKE 17:26-27, JESUS SPEAKING, “THEY DID EAT, THEY DRANK, THEY MARRIED WIVES, THEY WERE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, UNTIL THE DAY * * * [UNTIL THE DAY] * * * THAT NOE (NOAH) ENTERED INTO THE ARE, AND THE FLOOD CAME, AND DESTROYED THEM ALL.

    DELIVERANCE OF THE RIGHTEOUS & DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED THE SAME DAY!!!

    AND,

    LUKE 17:28-29, JESUS SAID, “LIKEWISE ALSO AS IT WAS IN THE DAYS OF LOT; THEY DID EAT, THEY DRANK, THEY BOUGHT, THE SOLD, THEY PLANTED, THEY BUILDED;

    29) BUT THE SAME DAY * * * [THE SAME DAY] * * * THAT LOT WENT OUT OF SODOM IT RAINED FIRE AND BRIMSTONE FROM HEAVEN, AND DESTROYED THEM ALL.”

    AGAIN, THROUGHOUT THE BIBLE WE CAN SHOW

    DELIVERANCE OF THE RIGHTEOUS & DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED!

    JOEL 1:15, THE HOLY SPIRIT IS TALKING ABOUT THE “DAY OF THE LORD” IS AT HAND, (WHERE ALMIGHTY GOD DEALS WITH THE WICKED!)

    JOEL 2:1-2, AGAIN THE HOLY SPIRIT TELLS US (AND, WAS PENNED BY JOEL) ABOUT THE “DAY OF THE LORD”

    JOEL 2:10, THE EARTH SHALL QUAKE BEFORE THEM; THE HEAVENS SHALL TREMBLE: THE SUN AND THE MOON SHALL BE DARK AND THE STARS SHALL WITH WITHDRAW THEIR SHINING:

    JOEL 2:11 – ” . . . FOR THE * * * “DAY OF THE LORD * * * DAY OF THE LORD IS GREAT AND VERY TERRIBLE; AND WHO CAN ABIDE IT?

    * * * * * *

    QUESTION: IF THERE IS A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” WHICH IS A LIE FROM THE PIT OF HELL – WHY DID THE “BRIDE” GET RAPTURED IN REVELATION 4:1

    (THAT IS WHERE THE “PRE-TRIBBERS” TELLS US THE CHURCH IS CAUGHT UP IN THE RAPTURE)

    WHY DID THE “BRIDE” COME BACK TO EARTH AND HIDE IN HER CLOSET? DOESN’T MAKE SENSE DOES IT?

    WHY? BECAUSE THE “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” IS A DEMONIC DOCTRINE STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL!

    JOEL 2:16, ” . . . LET THE BRIDEGROOM (JESUS) GO FORTH FROM HIS CHAMBER, AND THE BRIDE OUT OF HER CLOSET.”

    JOHN 11:1-44, JESUS TELLS ABOUT THE DEATH OF LAZARUS AND IN WHERE JESUS RAISED LAZARUS FROM THE DEAD.

    * * * * * QUESTION * * * * *

    IF THERE IS A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” WHY DIDN’T JESUS TELL MARTHA ABOUT IT WHEN SHE (MARTHA) WAS TALKING TO JESUS ABOUT THE DEATH OF HER BROTHER LAZARUS?

    * * * * * ANSWER * * * * *

    BECAUSE JESUS NEVER TAUGHT A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” IT IS A MAN MADE DOCTRINE STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL!

    JOHN 11:21-27, “THEN SAID MARTHA UNTO JESUS, LORD, IF THOU HADST BEEN HERE, MY BROTHER HAD NOT DIED.

    22. “BUT I KNOW, THAT EVEN NOW, WHATSOEVER THOU WILT ASK OF GOD, GOD WILL GIVE IT THEE.”

    23. “JESUS SAITH UNTO HER, THY BROTHER SHALL RISE AGAIN.”

    24. MARTHA SAID UNTO HIM, “I KNOW THAT HE SHALL RISE AGAIN IN THE RESURRECTION AT THE LAST DAY.”

    * * * * MARTHA SAID, “I KNOW HE SHALL RISE AGAIN IN THE RESURRECTION AT THE LAST DAY.”

    JESUS TOLD US ABOUT THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT & TARES

    MATTHEW 13:24-30, THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS LIKENED UNTO A MAN WHICH SOWED GOOD SEED IN HIS FIELD:

    BUT WHILE MEN SLEPT, HIS ENEMY CAME AND SOWED TARES AMONG THE WHEAT, AND WENT HIS WAY.

    BUT WHEN THE BLADE WAS SPRUNG UP, AND BROUGHT FORTH FRUIT, THEN APPEARED THE TARES ALSO.

    SO THE SERVANTS OF THE HOUSEHOLDER CAME AND SAID UNTO HIM, “SIR, DIDST NOT THOU SOW GOOD SEED IN THY FIELD? FROM WHENCE THEN HATH IT TARES?

    HE SAID UNTO THEM, AN ENEMY HATH DONE THIS. THE SERVANTS SAID UNTO HIM, WILT THOU THEN THAT WE GO AND GATHER THEM (TARES) UP?

    BUT HE SAID, “NAY; LEST WHILE YE GATHER UP THE TARES, YE ROOT UP THE WHEAT WITH THEM.

    LET BOTH GROW TOGETHER UNTIL THE HARVEST: AND IN THE TIME OF HARVEST I WILL SAY TO THE REAPERS, “GATHER YE TOGETHER FIRST THE TARES, AND BIND THEM IN BUNDLES TO BURN THEM: BUT GATHER THE WHEAT INTO MY BARN.”

    MATTHEW 13:36-43, THE DISCIPLES CAME TO JESUS PRIVATELY AND ASKED HIM TO DECLARE TO THEM THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT AND TARES AND JESUS FULLY LAYS OUT THE PARABLE OF THE WHEAT AND TARES.

    NOTICE IN MATTHEW 13:39 JESUS SAID, “THE ENEMY THAT SOWED THEM IS THE DEVIL; THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE WORLD; AND THE REAPERS ARE THE ANGELS.”

    * * * * “THE HARVEST IS THE END OF THE WORLD * * * *

    SORRY, FOLKS NO “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE”!!!

    * * * * OK, FOR A MOMENT LET’S SAY THERE IS A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” – AND, I WILL SHOW YOU HOW IT DEFIES LOGIC.

    SO THE “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” HAPPENS IN REVELATION 4:1 (AS PER THE (PRE-TRIBBERS”)

    EVEN THOUGH WHEN ALMIGHTY GOD TOLD US IN THE OLD TESTAMENT OVER 333 TIMES THAT HIS SON WAS COMING TO EARTH AND WE CAN TAKE EVERY ONE AT FACE VALUE!!!

    EVERYONE ABOUT THE COMING OF JESUS (OVER 333 SCRIPTURES) AT FACE VALUE.

    AND, IF WE LOOK AT REVELATION 4:1, (TAKING IT ALSO AT FACE VALUE) WE WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT JOHN SAW A DOOR OPENED IN HEAVEN, AND JOHN HEARD A VOICE WHICH SAID, “COME UP HITHER” AND I WILL SHEW THEE THING WHICH MUST BE HEREAFTER.

    JESUS DID NOT DESCEND IN THE CLOUDS AS PER 1 THESSALONIANS 4:15-17, “FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND FROM HEAVEN WITH A SHOUT, WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, AND WITH THE TRUMP OF GOD, AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST:

    THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS, TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR: AND SO SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD.”

    IN REVELATION 4:1 – JESUS DOESN’T DESCEND FROM HEAVEN IN THE CLOUDS, JOHN WENT STRAIGHT TO HEAVEN.

    YOU DO NOT HAVE THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL – IT WAS JESUS THAT WAS TALKING TO JOHN (HEARD A VOICE THAT SOUNDED LIKE A TRUMPET) SEE REVELATION 1:9-20

    THE VOICE OF JESUS SOUNDS LIKE A TRUMPET FOR SOME REASON

    YOU DON’T HAVE THE TRUMP (TRUMPET) OF GOD AND YOU DON’T HAVE “RAPTURE” IN REVELATION 4:1

    JOHN WAS TOLD TO “COME UP HITHER SO JESUS COULD SHOW JOHN “THINGS WHICH MUST BE HEREAFTER” – PERIOD END OF STORY!!!

    * * * HOWEVER, LET’S PLAY THE “PRE-TRIB RAPTURE” CARD

    OK, FOR THOSE “PRE-TRIBBERS” LET’S SAY THERE IS A “RAPTURE” IN REVELATION 4:1, AND, THIS IS WHERE THE “PRE-TRIB RAPTURE” GETS TOTALLY ILLOGICAL AND DEFIES LOGIC.

    SO THE “ELECT’ ARE GONE AND YOU HAVE THE “LEFT BEHIND” CROWD WHICH CONSIST OF MURDERERS, ADULTERERS, CHILD MOLESTERS, CHILD BEATERS, RAPISTS, WIFE BEATERS, WIFE SWAPPERS, PAGANS, WITCHES, LIARS, THOSE THAT DON’T BELIEVE IN GOD, THOSE THAT HAVE NEVER READ THE BIBLE, THIEVES, HOMOSEXUALS, LESBIANS, TRANSGENDERS, SELF-RIGHTEOUS CHURCH MEMBERS, THE PROUD, AND SO FORTH.

    NOW YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THIS GROUP, THE “LEFT BEHIND” CROWD IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING IN ABOUT 3.5 YEARS THAT THE CHURCH COULD NOT DO IN 2,000 YEARS;

    AND, THAT IS GET A MULTITUDE SAVED THAT NO MAN CAN NUMBER AND THEY DO THAT WHILE THE ANTICHRIST IS HANDING OUT THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND IF YOU DON’T TAKE THE MARK YOU DON’T EAT AND THEY WILL CUT YOU HEAD OFF;

    AND, ALMIGHTY GOD SAID, 2 THESSALONIANS 2:10-12, “AND WITH ALL DECEIVABLENESS OF UNRIGHTNESS IN THEM THAT PERISH; BECAUSE THEY RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED.

    11. AND FOR THIS CAUSE GOD SHALL SEND THEM STRONG DELUSION, THAT THEY SHOULD BELIEVE A LIE:

    12. THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DAMNED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH, BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

    THE BOTTOM LINE:

    YOU ARE TELLING ME THAT THE “LEFT BEHIND” CROWD NOW STARTS BELIEVING IN ALMIGHTY GOD AND MIRACULOUSLY GET A MULTITUDE SAVED

    EVEN THOUGH THE ANTICHRIST IS FORCING EVERYONE TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND THEY WILL CUT YOUR HEAD OFF (REVELATION 20:4 ” . . THE SOULS OF THEM THAT WERE

    BEHEADED FOR THE WITNESS OF JESUS, AND FOR THE WORD OF GOD, AND WHICH HAD

    NOT WORSHIPPED THE BEAST, NEITHER HIS IMAGE, NEITHER HAD RECEIVED HIS MARK UPON THEIR FOREHEADS, OR IN THEIR HANDS; AND THEY LIVED AND REIGNED WITH CHRIST A THOUSAND YEARS.”

    SO ALMIGHTY GOD SENDS A STRONG DELUSION THAT THOSE LEFT BEHIND WILL BELIEVE A LIE AND ALL WILL BE DAMNED;

    AND, THE ANTICHRIST WILL FORCE YOU TO TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST AND IF YOU DON’T YOU WILL BEHEADED (KILLED)

    AND, YOU BELIEVE IN A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE”

    ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!!!

    THE “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” IS A DEMONIC DOCTRINE STRAIGHT FROM THE PIT OF HELL!!

    ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS YOU LORD & SAVIOUR AND FOLLOW HIM AND NEVER ACCEPT THE MARK OF THE BEAST;

    AND, READ YOUR BIBLE AND DON’T FOLLOW DEMONIC DOCTRINES!

  6. Paul Morgan

    Gwendolen – On my second post I give numerous scriptural passages proving that there is NO “Pre-Tribulation Rapture”‘;

    And, My Desire And GOAL Is That People Just READ THE BIBLE For Themselves And Quit Believing What Someone Else Told Them;

    THE BOTTOM LINE

    You Can NOT Prove Numerous Raptures Even Though “GOD” Has Shown Thousands Of People Numerous Raptures –

    First, Who Is The “GOD” That Showed Numerous Raptures? Is It Actually Satan That Has Done That?

    And,

    Second, GOD Can’t NOT Show You Or Anyone Else Numerous “RAPTURES” If It DISAGREES WITH HIS WORD!

    And, Multiple Raptures DISAGREES WITH THE WORD OF GOD!

    I Was Given A Prophecy Years Ago, That “ALMIGHTY GOD SAVED ME FROM BEING MURDERED BECAUSE HE KNEW I WOULD TEACH THE BOOK OF REVELATION”

    Gwendolen YOU MIGHT JUST READ WHAT I HAVE POSTED AND COMPARE IT WITH YOU BIBLE – PLEASE DO!!!

    RESPECTFULLY,

  7. Paul Morgan

    Gwendolen – I Have Given Numerous Scriptures

    If There Are Numerous “RAPTURES” PROVE IT TO ME WITH SCRIPTURES –

    And, I Will OFFER EVERYONE AN APPOLOGY!

    Respectfully,
    Paul Morgan

  8. Robert Howard

    Paul Morgan,

    I have never posted before this. I have tried to tell this same logic to a couple of people, but they refuse to listen.
    I agree 100% with what you said and all that you said seems to allignes with scripture. If it be wrong on our end, then May the Lord correct us.

    I do think the people that are in the countries that are currently being beheaded and killed for thier beliefs wish thier was a rapture that could have saved them. Why do the people in the first world countries believe we are higher than our King. Christ was crucified, He really did not want to be, He sought another way from the Father, but asked the Fathers will be done. Also, do you think that Paul and the 11 Apostles wanted to go through all they did? We are an arrogant generation thinking we are above our Lord who gave Himself for us. We think we are going to be whisked away without as much as a scratch.
    All the prophecies need too line up with the scriptures as Paul Morgan pointed out. So many on this site say God told them that thier will be a rapture and others say God told them thier is not. God does not cause confusion and He does not contradict His word. Someone is lying and I think that is the lying and seducing spirits that are out there confusing the church. Remember to also watch out for the vain imaginations some of us may have. Paul tells us to watch our doctrine and test the spirits to know if they are of God. He also said to not be deceived. Remember church, the Devil comes as an anger of light. Verify all with scripture, also remember the Lord rebuked satan through scripture. Test the spirits and verify through scripture. Gods word is true and the living word is Jesus Christ my Lord, Savior and King

    (The word rapture is not in the Bible. It is the second coming that appears and it doesnt happen 2, 3, 4 or more times, this is what is to be a new age theory. (Doctrines of demons).

    In Christ,
    Robert

  9. Catherine

    Every year some of these false prophets will say: this year in March, or April, or September…..will be the rapture and what happened until now? nothing. We are here and will be here for some time.

  10. Michael

    What your post assumes is what basically 99.99% (ok it’s really 100%) of those who dismiss the departure of the church as (demonic or false prophecy etc…)
    All of them, and you also, seem to always forget one thing. That God is NOT done with Israel. As if Romans ch11 doesn’t exist. God is not done with his covenant with Israel. Daniel 9’s prophecy has not yet been completed.
    So just like the other 99.99% you’ve thrown in Matthew 24 into the church age when Jesus clearly told people who were in “Judea” to flee to the mountains.
    Also the abomination of desolation in the holy place requires the Jewish temple to be rebuilt, not the figurative temple Paul mentioned. A real temple.

    God will take away the restrainer, then the antichrist can be revealed. (2Thessalonians 2)

  11. Jesse Terrell

    Thanks Paul Morgan. Been saying the same thing—not in great detail like yourself–but the same result–Immediately after the tribulation. I don’t even use the word “rapture” because it is not a Biblical word. Not in the bible. Matt. 24 so clearly lays out the timeline. If you let a group of fifth graders read Mat. 24…then ask them ,”When is the rapture?” They would respond—“What is a ‘rapture?” One last thin that Miss Anita Fuentes pointed out on her blog, The Bride is not the church. The church is the BODY of Christ. How can you be the BODY of Christ AND the Bride. Revelation 21 CLEARLY says the New Jerusalem is the bride. How can over 99% of believers get that wrong? Don’t ask me. They use a PARABLE that says the kingdom of heaven is LIKE 10 vigins. It is also compared to other things. The Bible will explain itself if one will simply read it. :LORD bless all.

  12. Paul Morgan

    Jonathan Theiben THANK YOU for allowing me posting my comments on your website.

    Robert Howard, and Jesse Terrell I want to THANK YOU both for your comments –

    Michael – Regarding your comments I have a QUESTION:

    Is it possible the ALMIGHTY GOD has sent a LYING SPIRIT to the Church in the form of a “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” Doctrine to “TEST” The Church To See If They Will Believe GOD?

    At this point I know some of you will say, “NO WAY, GOD Would NOT Send A Lying Spirit!” REALLY,

    Well It Won’t Be The First Time GOD Sent A LYING SPIRIT!

    1 Kings Chapter 22:20. And the LORD said, Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramothgilead? And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner.

    21. And there came forth a SPIRIT, and stood before the LORD, AND SAID, I WILL PERSUADE HIM.

    22. And The LORD Said Unto Him, Wherewith? And He Said, I WILL GO FORTH, AND I WILL BE A LYING [LYING SPIRIT] IN THE MOUTH OF ALL HIS PROPHETS. AND HE SAID. THOU SHALT PERSUDE HIM, AND PREVAIL ALSO: GO FORTH AND DO SO!!!

    23. Now Therefore, Behold, The LORD HATH PUT A LYING SPIRIT IN THE MOUTH OF ALL THESE THY PROPHETS, AND THE LORD HATH SPOKEN EVIL CONCERNING THEE.

    Michael The “CHURCH AGE” Ends At The RAPTURE (END TIME HARVEST) And Just As In A Previous Comment THE DAY OF THE LORD BEGINS!

    Just As YOU Pointed Out 2 Thessalonians 2:1-5, “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the COMING OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, AND BY OUR GATHERING UNTO HIM.

    [WHAT IS THAT? THE RAPTURE!]

    THEN LOOK THE APOSTLE PAUL “MARRIES” THE “RAPTURE” & THE DAY OF THE LORD BECAUSE HE TELLS NOT TO BE SHAKEN OR TROUBLED “AS THE DAY OF CHRIST (DAY OF THE LORD) IS AT HAND!

    2. That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the DAY OF CHRIST [DAY OF THE LORD] Is At Hand.

    3. LET NO MAN DECEIVE YOU BY ANY MEANS: FOR THAT DAY (WHAT DAY – THE RAPTURE & DAY OF THE LORD) SHALL NOT COME, EXCEPT THERE COME A FALLING AWAY FIRST, AND THAT MAN OF SIN BE REVEALED, THE SON OF PERDITION:

    4. Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
    5. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

    FURTHER MICHAEL – NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT TELL US “WHO” THE RESTRAINER IS! SOME SAY IT IS MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL SO SAY IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT – WE DON’T KNOW!

    But we do know we were told in the HOLY SCRIPTURES that people would DEPART FROM SOUND DOCTRINE IN THE LAST DAYS (Example – The Pre-Tribulation Rapture)

    2 Peter 1:16, “For we have not followed CUNNINGLY DEVISED FABLES, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our LORD JESUS CHRIST, but were eyewitnesses of His Majesty.”

    2 Timothy 4:1-4, “I charge thee therefore before GOD, and the LORD JESUS CHRIST, who shall judge the quick and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom;

    2. Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

    3. FOR THE TIME WILL COME WHEN THEY WILL NOT ENDURE SOUND DOCTRINE; BUT AFTER THEIR OWN LUSTS SHALL THEY HEAP TO THEMSELVES TEACHERS, HAVING ITCHING EARS:

    4. AND THEY SHALL TURN AWAY THEIR EARS FROM THE TRUTH, AND SHALL BE TURNED UNTO FABLES.

    2 Peter 2:1, “But there were FALSE PROPHETS also among the people, even as there shall be FALSE TEACHERS among you, who privily shall bring in DAMNABLE HERESIES, even denying the LORD that bought
    them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

    2. And MANY SHALL FOLLOW THEIR PERNICIOUS WAYS; BY REASON OF WHOM THE WAY OF TRUTH SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.

    3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

    IN CLOSING – MICHAEL LOOK AT THE FOLLOWING:

    When The Apostle Paul PENNED Two-Thirds of the New Testament Under The Inspiration Of The HOLY SPIRIT – HE (The Apostle Paul) Did NOT Include Chapters & Verses

    Those (Chapters & Verses) Were Added Centuries Later. Therefore, look at the Following Verses:

    From 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 [NOTE – i have REMOVED Chapters & Verses]

    For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

    For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    [THE APOSTLE PAUL IS TALKING ABOUT THE RAPTURE – AND, THE “CHURCH” IS NOT RAPTURE – PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WILL BECOME SO CORRUPT – ONLY THE “ELECT” WILL BE RAPTURED!]

    NOW WE MOVE INTO 1 THESSALONIANS 5

    But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

    For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that THAT DAY should overtake you as a thief.

    Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

    Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

    For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

    But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

    For GOD HATH NOT APPOINTED US TO WRATH, BUT TO OBTAIN SALVATION BY OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

    Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with Him.

    GOD HAS NOT APPOINTED US TO WRATH – BUT ALMIGHTY GOD IN HIS WISDOM HAS APPOINTED US TO JUDGMENT AND THE REASON IS JUST AS YOU SPANK YOUR CHILD IF THEY MISBEHAVE; PLUS, ALMIGHTY GOD DOESN’T WANT ANYONE TO PERISH –

    THEREFORE, HE WILL EXECUTE JUDGMENT (SPANKING) BECAUSE ONLY WHEN HE EXECUTES JUDGMENT WILL MEN (BOTH MALE & FEMALE) FINALLY COME TO REALIZE THERE IS A GOD AND THEY COME TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!

    GOD IS A LOVING HEAVENLY FATHER AND IN HIS MERCY HE IS FORCED TO SHOW HIS HAND BY DISPENSING JUDGMENT;

    NOTE – GOD GIVES JUDGMENT;

    HOWEVER, GOD’S WRATH IS DELIVERED BY ANGELS!

    BE BLESSED

  13. Catherine

    Paul, good said: God sent not only one lying spirit to test the church but many. If we see the immense Endtime deception in the churches, it’s clear: Homosexualls in the churches and the pastors and people are not schocked, a great movement back to the Catholic Church, Chrislam, “christian yoga”, new Age, in the churches, in bibleschools, christian universities, etc., christian bookshops full of false bibles like “The Message”, false books like “Jesus calling”, etc. It’s crazy and we want to be raptured? forget it.
    Even if jesus will come today, perhaps 10% or 1% will go with Him. So be thankful to go through the fire, to be purified. Jesus is coming for a bride, not for a whore.
    I have seen in a dream-vision the Wormwood catastrophe. We were here and Jesus came to me and my husband and gave us instructions, what to do. He didn’t take us out.
    Wake up, church! there is not revival without repentance. There is no repentance without judgement!!!

  14. Nettie

    Who said multiple raptures means one is Pre-trib?

    In my country, we are experiencing horrendous tribulation. Its not at all pre-trib for us anymore. Be grateful while you don’t. I seriously doubt many of us Christians here will still be alive in 3 months time. I have 4 children. DO NOT TAKE MY HOPe AND FAITH AWAY. God WILL help my children and He WILL help my babies.

    Forget about the word rapture. Just look at HARVESTS. God is harvesting HIS shares of souls. How MANY harvests are in a season and in a year ALL thoughout His Bible?

  15. Paul Morgan

    THANK YOU – JONATHAN THEIBEN For Having This Website And Allowing Us To Post Comments – THANK YOU!

    ALSO, THANK YOU – ROBERT HOWARD, JESSE TERRELL, & CATHERINE – THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS – THANK YOU!

    To My Brothers & Sisters NO MATTER WHAT YOU BELIEVE, OR “WANT TO BELIEVE” – THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS THE WORD OF GOD!

    Years Ago I Was Given A Prophecy That ALMIGHTY GOD SAVED ME FROM BEING MURDERED BECAUSE HE KNEW I WOULD TEACH THE BOOK OF REVELATION;

    AND, I WILL NOT (KNOWINGLY) TEACH ANY FALSE DOCTRINE!!!

    In Addition, For About 25 Years I Had One Of The GREATEST PREACHERS & BIBLE TEACHERS That You Could Ever Ask For. And, YES HE WAS PRE-TRIB.

    I Listened And “BELIEVED” In The “PRE-TRIB” Doctrine Until I Was Asked By An Evangelist To Drive Him To The Lake Of The Ozarks For A 50 Year Celebration In Ministry For Dr. Hilton Sutton.

    When We Got There I Met Dr. Hilton Sutton And The Pastor Of The Church. Dr. Sutton had A Table With Some Of His Products Displayed On Table For Sale – Included Was A SET OF VCR TAPES ON “BOOK OF REVELATION” – Which I Bought.

    I Watched Those VCR Tapes Time And Time Again AND GOT OUT MY BIBLE And In Revelation 4:1 Dr. Sutton Went On And On “PREACHING HIS PRE-TRIB” DOCTRINE –

    And, I SAID, “HEY, WAIT A MINUTE – MY BIBLE DOESN’T SAY THAT!”

    FINALLY, I Quit Watching Them And WENT ON AN INTENSE SEARCH FOR THE WORD OF GOD!

    THE BOTTOM LINE – I DID FIND WHERE THE “RAPTURE” APPEARS BEFORE THE TRIBULATION – BUT ONLY IN THE DICTIONARY!

    NOT IN THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD!

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    MICHAEL – QUESTION:

    If You And About 10 FRIENDS & RELATIVES Were Driving Down A Mountain And Your Vehicle Was Hit By A LARGE TRUCK And NOW IT IS HANGING OFF THE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN

    AND, AT ANYTIME IT COULD FALL OVER THE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN AND EVERYONE WOULD BE KILLED!

    HOWEVER, YOU & YOUR FAMILY ARE NEAR AN EXIT YOU HAVE A CHOICE –

    DO YOU ESCAPE AND LET EVERYONE ELSE PERISH?

    OR DO YOU TELL THE PEOPLE “OK, LET’S BE VERY GENTLE AND THE PEOPLE ‘ONE-BY-ONE’ CAREFULLY COME FROM THE PART OF THE VEHICLE THAT IS HANGING OVER THE MOUNTAIN AND ESCAPE OUT THE BACK;

    AND, YOU ENCOURAGE THEM TO MAYBE STAND ON THE BUMPER TO HELP BALANCE THE VEHICLE SO MORE PEOPLE CAN GET OFF!

    THE BOTTOM LINE – BECAUSE OF YOUR DECISION EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO ESCAPE TO SAFETY AND ONCE THE LAST PERSON ESCAPED TO SAFETY –

    NOW THE VEHICLE PLUNGED OVER THE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN!

    MICHAEL WOULD YOU LET YOUR FRIENDS PERISH?

    NO WAY!!! YOU WOULD DO YOUR BEST TO HELP THEM!!!

    QUESTION:

    WOULD ALMIGHTY GOD DO ANY LESS?

    IT SAYS IN HIS WORD, “HE DOESN’T WANT ANYONE TO PERISH”

    2 PETER 3:9, “The LORD is not slack concerning HIS PROMISE, as some men count slackness; but is LONGSUFFERING TO US-WARD, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, BUT THAT ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE.”

    SO ALMIGHTY GOD WILL “SPANK” HIS KIDS AND SEND JUDGMENT SO THAT THEY HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE HE (ALMIGHTY GOD) DOESN’T WANT ANYONE TO PERISH;

    THE WAY HE (ALMIGHTY GOD) ACCOMPLISHES THIS IS JUDGMENT SO MEN WILL REPENT AND COME TO KNOW JESUS CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR.

    MICHAEL GOD LOVES YOU AND EVERYONE THAT BELIEVES IN A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” – BUT THERE ARE OVER 333 SCRIPTURES IN THE OLD TESTAMENT WHERE ALMIGHTY GOD TOLD US HIS SON WAS COMING;

    AND, WE CAN TAKE EVERYONE OF THOSE SCRIPTURES AT FACE VALUE;

    MALACHI 3:6, “FOR I AM THE LORD, I CHANGE NOT:”

    AND,

    HEBREWS 13:8, “JESUS CHRIST THE SAME YESTERDAY, AND TO DAY, AND FOR EVER.”

    1 CORINTHIANS 14:33, “FOR GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION”

    IN CLOSING:

    THOSE THAT BELIEVE IN A “PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE” DOCTRINE CAN NOT GIVE ME ONE “CLEAR” FACE VALUE SCRIPTURE PROVING / SHOWING JESUS COMING IN THE CLOUDS BEFORE DANIEL’S SEVENTIETH WEEK (ALSO, THE SEVEN YEAR TRIBULATION PERIOD)

    IT IS JUST NOT THERE –

    ALSO, YOU CAN’T PROVE FROM SCRIPTURE WHO THE “RESTRAINER” IS – SCRIPTURE DOES NOT TELL US!

    COULD BE THE HOLY SPIRIT, MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL OR ???

    SOME WILL SAY, “WELL IT IS THE CHURCH!”

    REALLY, WELL WHY DIDN’T THE “CHURCH” HOLD BACK HITLER, STALIN, MAO SAY TUNG, KIM JONG-UN, AND ALL THE OTHER WICKED MURDERING LEADERS –

    JUST LIKE THE “PRE-TRIB” DOCTRINE DOESN’T MAKE SENSE!

    CHALLENGE – GO INTO YOUR PRAYER CLOSET LAY HANDS ON YOUR BIBLE AND ASK ALMIGHTY GOD TO REVEAL THE “TRUTH” TO YOU!

  16. Sarah

    The all caps isn’t helpful. It comes off as aggression on the internet. Visually, my brain just has a much harder time processing what is being written when the letters look “the same” as all caps comes off very blocky. Am I the only one?

    – not a pretribber, just commenting on the difficulty with all caps, in general. This is obviously done to grab attention, but it actually does the very opposite.

  17. bozo1234

    The Departure: Personal anecdotes, do not equal scripture…Jesus said,… “in the world,ye shall have tribulation.” John 16:33 Further, Romans 12:12 “Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;” Mark 4:17 ” And they have no root in themselves, but endure for a while; then, when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately they fall away.” Romans 8:35 ” Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword? So, there you have it, one groups tribulation, though more extreme than another group, does not invalidate the the concept of a rapture. In this world, there will be people who suffer more than others…where does the Bible state that, we must all suffer equally ? The Christians under Nero, were covered in tar and lit on fire at night, for the entertainment value…when people in power are demonized, hell comes to the surface; to wit, regarding the Christians he had just set ablaze, Nero stated: That,” You Christians really are the light of the world.” The misapplication of a clear Biblical teaching, does not disqualify same. Over many centuries, various groups were led astray, by pastors who misapplied the word…which error, does not invalidate the rapture. Luke 21:24 “And they shall fall by the edge of the sward, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the gentiles, until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled.” The ‘end times’ and ergo the rapture, could not commence, until Jerusalem was back in Jewish control, which happened in 1967. So, the Chinese, Russian and east block persecution- as bad as it was- could not have a rapture save them, when Jerusalem was still not under Jewish control. As bad as the suffering for the sake gospel has been-for the past 2,000 yrs.- your or my sense of what is, or should be the equitable distribution of persecution, is not under our purview …persecution, is an abstract, which God has full control of… To ‘The Departure’ ” Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.Let no man deceive you by any mans: for that day shall not come, except there come -‘The Departure’ first, and that man of sin revealed, the son of perdition.” You see, the phrase-‘falling away,’ was not in the first seven English Bibles, which were translated into English from the original Greek manuscripts. Wycliffe-1834/ Tyndale-1526/ Coverdale-1535/ Cranmer-1539/ Breeches-1576/ Beza-1538/ Geneva-1608. Not a one had ‘falling away,’ all manuscripts left in the original-‘The Departure’ While ‘falling away’ is a nebulous construct, that doesn’t answer the question why ‘The’ was maintained, which is a definite article in Greek syntax, a connotation, which speaks to a definite event, an exact action, which of course ‘falling away,’ is obviously not… further, 2 Thess. 2;6-8 repeats the idea from verses 2-3… so, admit it, your collective rejection of the rapture of the bride before the Tribulation starts, is one of emotion and not logic. To raptures…Elijah and Enoch, both raptured to heaven, though we don’t know if they were raptured in eternal glorified bodies or the earthly body? The 2 witnesses are to be raptured. The 144,000 Tribulation preachers are sealed in Revelation 7 and then raptured into heaven in chapter 14. But, of course, there is no such thing as a rapture …right?

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