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BRACE YOURSELF – Dana Coverstone


June 26, 2020 5:12 PM
Dana Coverstone

He sees calendar stop on March , June, September,  November. Hyper Inflation,  Armed Protests, Washington DC on fire, Blue Helmets, Russian, Chinese

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This is Dana Coverstone.  I’m a pastor. I’m a husband, I’m a father. I’m a patriot I love this country.

I can confirm the first part of what I’m about to tell you because I told some men at a prayer group back in December.  2nd or third week of December. I’m going to share three specific dreams that I’ve had recently. Going back to December.  Two that I’ve had this week both, both Monday and last night ( Monday and Tuesday night).

I believe number one they are prophetic.  The first one that I have had has come explicitly true based on the events of March to June, the month which we’re living.

I do not claim to be a prophet by any means. I understand though that some dreams and visions by their nature have a prophetic tendency to them. I do believe I’ve seen things. Both that have happened as relevant by the first dream that I had, and things that I’ve seen recently. So you can take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt, you can pray about it you can think about it.

But I believe that I have a warning for the country. A warning for rural America.  A warning for America overall.

Here’s what happened:


Back in December I woke up, I had a dream. In that dream I saw calendar. Starting January 2020.

It was being flipped.  I saw January,  I saw February,  I saw March.  When March came up the hand held it and I saw the thing of finger underline the month of March, and the tap it three times.

So underline the month of March, tapped it three times.

So to me it was emphasis, something’s going to happen in March.

Then I saw , April, May, June. When June came, the hand underlined June again and tapped it three times.

Then, in the vision I saw people marching, I saw protest. I saw people were in mass, I saw lines going into hospitals. I saw typical medical doctors with needles or syringes, I saw people on ventilators I saw people who were very, very sick, very very ill. I saw newspaper headlines trumpeting thousands of people getting sick I saw ambulances, just flying down roads, and then I saw cities on fire.

I saw buildings being burned. I saw protesters with masks. I saw people who had their fists in the air,  people who were yelling and screaming angry at just at the world. I saw courthouses,  I saw state houses surrounded.  I saw people who were mad at the world. I saw I saw guns shotguns specifically putting the air, held like this, (showing above his head) and I saw barriers within cities.

I told several men in my church about this and I can confirm who those men were and they’ll confirm what I’m telling you is what I told them.

I saw absolute chaos and the other thing I saw was vultures flying over large cities, not just the ones that were burning but I saw those was flying over the cities, and I saw smoke rising and I saw I saw people, fearful I saw people terrified I saw people inside their homes, is looking at the windows, the crimson windows with guns in their hands because it was absolute fear.

Then I heard the words. “Brace yourself. Brace yourself”.

So since December I’ve been hearing those words. ” Brace yourself. Brace yourself.”

January, February came, it didn’t seem too much. I reminded the men of the dream and then in March term COVID-19 hit and things started shutting down. Churches were shut down, business were shut down, the economy shut down.

Then we began to see the protests, starting in March, in May in Minneapolis and those things began to go on. So where we are at the end of the primary election here in Kentucky. Now there’s talk of more shutdowns.  I just heard the governor talk about schools opening back up and things of that nature.

The things that I saw in a dream, vision back in December, are the same things that I watched in the news almost every day since March through June.

All of this time I kept hearing “brace yourself brace yourself”.

I spent time in prayer,  I spent time in the word – I’m a pastor.

And it’s not just my job it’s something that I enjoy doing. I love doing and I’m very interested in the news around the world. I read 40 newspapers a day from all around the world. I keep up with news in other parts of the nations, better because sometimes….it’s hard to know who to trust.  I get news from all over the world, all around the world from both liberal and conservative sources. I’m very well read and very understanding of how nations work, and I travel quite a bit.  I’m not just making these things up I can confirm what I have said.


With that in mind, on Monday night I had another dream.

It woke me from my bed.  I made notes about it.  I shot some video of myself just making sure to remember.

Here’s what I saw.

I saw a calendar. Start with the calendar. As I was having this, the calendar was up, a white figure appeared.  To me, it was a representing God the Holy Spirit, something pure, something righteous, something true, something Holy because there was nothing sinister about it.  Nothing evil, but I heard the voice say, “part two, part two”.

I saw June, go, I saw July. I saw August, and then I saw September, and I saw the finger underneath the word September and I like like emphasizing it and tap the three times.

Then I saw October come up, and then I saw November and this is when it got real to me in the dream.  I think the intensity for me…  when I woke up my heart rate was about 180.

So that was Monday night, and I woke up not feeling very well at all I was up during the night not feeling well.

But anyway,…  The minute the finger underlined November three times instead of tapping it, I saw a fist ball up and it hit the calendar.

And literally, the calendar exploded into the wall, the numbers seem that they were 3d and they were falling everywhere.

There was a cloud of chaos that started in there. The next thing I saw was I saw I saw armed protesters. I saw fighting in the streets, I saw people pummeling one another.  I saw businesses shuttered and shut out.

I saw schools close. I saw school rooms with cobwebs hanging in them and like things like papers falling off the wall and posters…  like no one had been in them for months.

I saw banks.  Bank buildings with the roof being taken off.  It looked almost that alien abduction because money was flying through the roof into some type of like a vacuum cleaner.  It sounds kind of strange, but I was watching wealth, just being taken. I saw politicians in back rooms, making deals with people. Patting people on the back and laughing and smiling and smirking.

I saw monuments,….. I saw Washington DC, burning. I saw Washington DC blazing. I saw fires, everywhere. I saw people being rounded up. I saw Chinese and Russian soldiers on the ground.  The Russian soldiers would tell the Chinese soldiers to go “pick up these people”…” secure this quadrant”….” secure this area”…  I saw blue helmets of the UN.  I saw a military things taking place. I also saw no sign of President Trump. I saw no sign of leadership in Washington DC.

The vultures that I had seen were like gargoyles.  They were 10 feet off the ground…. 10 to 15 feet off the ground.  They were just attacking people mercilessly. I saw people hiding in their homes and garages. I saw churches, being burned, I saw homes, being burned.

I saw absolute chaos.  The fist punch on the November of 2020 is what got my attention. Then I heard the words again. ” Brace yourself, Brace yourself. Brace yourself.”

That has been something that I have heard for almost, almost seven months now.  Starting, …  once we get to July, it’s gonna be seven months.

I’m not claiming to be a prophet I’m not claiming proclaiming … just, … let’s see what happens in November,… through November and see if I’m right about this. But I know when I hear God’s voice, I know, I know what God’s voice sounds like to me.  I know when He speaks. I know when I had a dream that I know is Him.  The things that I am saying, I don’t say this to scare people but I say this to warn people that there are some pretty sinister things coming down the pike, and not just for the lost but for God’s people as well.


The second dream I had last night,… It woke me up.

In this dream. We just had a yard sale to help fund team going to Ecuador this next year.

We had a yard sale.  I had asked our secretary to get some change for that for that yard sale. So, in the dream that I’m having, .. I walk to the bank. I walk into the bank to get some change.  On the door, it says there’s no change available.

I saw the sign and registered in mind.  I walked on in, and the president of the local bank was at the teller station. She was taking care of business.

And I said, I need to get $10 in quarters for yard sale and she said, I’m sorry, but the US Mint is no longer making currency or making change… ( like pennies nickels dimes quarters half dollars), “We’re not doing that anymore”,

“well what do you mean”

She said, … ” they stopped doing it” 

I said, “Well, how am I going to be able to charge $1.50 for anything ?

She said, ” prepare for hyperinflation and just charge $2 “

Then she said to me in the dream… Oh by the way, $1 and $5 bills will follow soon after that.

Then I heard those words. “Brace yourself. Brace yourself. Brace yourself.”

I wrote these things down.

I have never gone on video and recorded the dreams that I’ve had and I hesitated to not do the one I had back in December, but everything I saw in that dream in December, came true between March and June when in the dream I was shown March through June.

I don’t think I would be doing anyone a service if I don’t show what I saw in these dreams and visions.

I believe that we’re going to see not just going to see a second huge wave of Covid between September, October, November.

We’re going to see major things with the elections,…

We’re going to see major chaos in our country.

We’re going to see troops in our cities.

We’re going to see the protests get even worse,

We’re going to see buildings burn.

We’re going to see which can only lead to civil war in this country.

And so for my friends that are believers, … I’m just going to show that what I think you need to hear.

First of all, you need to be preparing food.

Make sure you’ve got alternative forms of currency like silver or gold or whatever.

I believe you need to have an ample supply of both guns and ammunition. That’s not just the Second Amendment fan of me coming out, that is the things that we’re seeing.  They are talking about defunding the police. That means one thing … you’re on your own a lot of areas.

I also believe you need to be praying like you never prayed before.

Make sure your family knows what’s going on,  where you are have some sort of communication between your family about if certain things happen if certain things go down.

I’m not saying, get off the grid, and I’ve never ever said anything like this in my church. I have said I believe that this could happen but I’ve never done what I’m doing right now.

I’m telling you that between September and November of this coming year.  And by the time we get to November and nothing’s happened …  man you call you call me on this and say .. you are an absolute idiot and a fool for saying those things.

Go right ahead.

I realize I’m responsible for what I’ve spoken. I also know what I sense and I know the Holy Spirit’s voice enough to know that what I’ve heard.

I believe is going to happen.  What I heard in December happened between March and June.

not because I’m a prophet because dreams have a prophetic edge to them sometimes I’ve been doing a whole series on dreams and visions I’m gonna finish that series up tonight on my our church and going to talk about why dreams and visions are literally an extension of the spiritual gifts at first Corinthians chapter 12 because we’re a wisdom or a knowledge the servant all those things are required for dreams and I pray Lord show me what these things mean that I have seen show me how to interpret them and what they are and right now as I speak this it is it was June 24th Wednesday night at 5:30 p.m. in Burkesville Kentucky I’m in my office at the church Limor ministries in Birch Hill Kentucky

sharing this not to scare you because I believe you know look God gave the prophets of the Old Testament a lot of warnings not to scare people but to prepare them for what was coming and sometimes I’m challenging you don’t just throw my word away don’t just think I’m some some preacher trying to get people to come that’s not it either because look the Bible says last day is a bit great falling away Jesus tells people to endure to the end make sure you endure to the end why because people when endure sound doctrine they’re gonna they’re gonna hear something you know some of you hear me and go oh man he is on drugs or something

I’m just telling you the dreams I have had you can do with them you can interpret them the way that you want to but I’m going to declare that I believe we’re gonna see between September and November incredible terrible awful nasty bad
things happen this nation and for the people who are not prepared for it it’s not just gonna catch them catch them in a bad place it’s gonna destroy a lot of faith a lot of harlot relationships a lot of people it’s gonna the aim is to kill this nation because right now we’re a nation that stands in the way of a lot
of the Antichrist principles like freedom liberty justice First Amendment Second Amendment thus Antichrist doesn’t want those things and yes I do believe the Antichrist is alive and well on planet Earth and I don’t like I don’t I don’t really care what people think
about this video you can call me whatever you want you can say whatever you want about me but

wait till December first to say it and if I’m wrong I’ll be the first one to come out and say folks I don’t know what I was thinking I don’t want to eat that night I’ve never had two dreams like this I’ve never had a part 1 part 2 part 1 came fully true in part 2 I believe will as well so heed my words folks believers stop messing around if you’re not living for the Lord like you need to because the press there’s an Olive Press moment coming for the church in this country an olive press moment and we’re gonna get crushed and squeeze and push down that’s why I believe God keeps saying brace
herself he’s this to me so I can say to you brace yourself for the things that are coming
endure to the end no matter how hard it gets I’m not giving up the faith that I have in Christ I’ve come too far on this walk and too far in my life to do that but I want to make sure that others don’t make that mistake and don’t just walk away from it take up the cross deny yourself and follow him thanks for listening

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  1. KarenO

    Wow. It seems entirely plausible. I hope we’re gone by then…yikes. Praying with you all.

  2. Marc

    Thank you for giving me/us… the opportunity of the warning message…
    It’s a hard push, but worth it, for those who need to prepare for others…
    Prepare food basics….dry Bean’s, Rice, can meats, oat meal, grit’s, corn meal…tang drink mix, grape seed oil, lard, rocket stove uses small sticks to cook, solar sun oven.
    Prepare spiritual power by praying.
    Prepare to protect innocent one’s, even as David, Moses, Sampson with courage and weapons both handgun and shotgun.
    It’s not unfaithful to prepare in all our ways… amen Christ Jesus

  3. Sarah

    Thanks. I think, God willing, I’ll pass the video along to some American friends. When this year started, I had such a pronounced sense of urgency inside that I asked the Lord whether it was going to be a bad year, because I never had that sense for any year previous. My reason said that it had to be it, but I wanted to know whether my reason was right. Certainly, it seems that way….

  4. Catherine

    Dear brother, your dreams need no interpretation, they are so clear.
    “the press there’s an Olive Press moment coming for the church in this country” No yet rapture but “olive press”
    Some days ago I made a video in German, Greek and English and at the End of the video in English a deep sadness came upon me. I begun to weep, I finished the video quickly and I begun to weep more. I think, it has to do, with what is coming.

  5. Bro. C

    Wow!i can confirm that message is from God, too much to go into detail but I have had dreams from God from over 10 years ago that seem like they are about to come to pass now. Before I couldn’t figure out how these things could happen but now it has become so clear that they can happen at any time. Oh God have mercy on Your People, it feels like we are in the Book of Jeremiah and Esther.

  6. Rodneyk

    I 100% believe you there was another post on another site and it aid that the summer season will be short. I believe the warning God is saying to you points to a soon to come rapture potenially in the summer time because I believe what you seen was the beggining of the Great Tribulation. God Bless!!!

  7. Catherine

    KarenO and Rodneyk, please forget the rapture. We are here. We’ll go through the “olive press”. Prepare…. Endtime: the rapture ? not yet !

  8. Nicki

    I fully believe this to be true. I had a dream in 2017 of U.S. civil war starting in October and November of a future year. I only saw the months, not the year, but I fully believe it is this year.
    I also believe that we need to watch the annexation developments in Israel. I believe that they will be attacked in some fashion if or when they do this.
    In my dream Jerusalem was hit by a missile at the same time our civil war started.

    • Georg

      Pater Paisios ( † 1994 )
      ” The dispute will escalate, and when it comes to expanding the 6 mile zone to the 12 mile zone, the outbreak of war is imminent. Turkey will lose almost its entire fleet in the attack on Greece, but on land they will advance towards Thessaloniki. The city of Xanthi must be completely rebuilt. In the beginning it will look like Turkey will win on every front. Turkey will wage war against Israel. Turkey will wage war against Russia. Russia will completely destroy Turkey. A third of the country will go to the Armenians, the second third to the Kurds and the last third will be given by the Russians to the Greeks – not because they want to, they will have to. Istanbul will come back into Greek hands and will become Constantinople again. The Europeans and the Americans will initially stay out of the conflict. But as more and more Russian armed forces and the Russian navy come south across the Black Sea, the Western powers are getting restless. The Russians destroy Turkey and hold their advance at the gates of Jerusalem. They will occupy this zone for 6 months. The European states (FR / GB / D / ES / IT and a few others) as well as the USA give the Russians an ultimatum to withdraw from Israel. The ultimatum expires and the Russians do not withdraw. The Mediterranean fills with fleets from all nations. Russia invades Europe “

  9. Jesse Terrell

    Thank you, Pastor–and brother, To me, this is the most believable word in a while. Thank you, sir. I am seriously considering moving away to a more remote location, far from big cities. Probably a good idea for people to leave the big cities. Others have mentioned being troubled this year feeling like bad things are coming…I have felt that also. GOD bless all, and LORD help us all to endure to the end—as Jesus said. He didn’t say, “Endure to the ‘rapture'”. Amen GOD bless you so much for warning us all, being obedient. Thank you!

  10. I have been warning people and my church for years, at least 5 or 6 years. For awhile before our pastor and his wife retired 3 years ago, I took over posting warnings and messages on our church’s sign board out front. Then mysteriously, the letters disappeared. When I asked about it, they told me they were being cleaned up. I had had to tape them on literally with postage tape because the board was old and wasn’t holding them on. I figured out real quick what was really happening, they didn’t want to hear them. Got to keep it nice and ‘happy’ and sugar coated. I just posted this message to facebook with that same experience, so I’m sure I will offend someone but I don’t really care at this point. It will hit them smack in the face soon if they don’t face it now.

  11. Michelle

    The Lord told me He would come when “Things are scarce upon the earth.”

  12. Pat

    The prophecy sounds correct. About 15 years ago, I had a timeline dream like his only it took me through the last 50 years of our presidents. I was told that I needed to wake up and was shown spiritually how bad things were going to get. After that, while wide awake, I was shown life during this time. My brain couldn’t conceive that social life and everything would be so destroyed. Now I can comprehend why and that it is happening. I’ve never had such specific prophecies since. thank you for warning about the Sept, Oct., Nov. time. We must just stay with Jesus in our Hearts and pray to Him always. He will assist us with angels if we listen.

  13. Reid

    Thank you for sharing, bro. You’re probably right

  14. K. Mountain

    Thanks for posting this dream. Many others have had dreams that are on YT that are just as bleak and chaotic as this dream. Prophetic dream? 20/20 is posted by Aleigh 2020 Aleigh, in Sept 2019. God gives her the interpretation after seeking Him in prayer concerning the dream.

  15. Bonnie

    I believe the rapture will take place in Sept. and that is why
    the Russians and Chinese will be here during the tribulation
    in November. My birthday is in Nov. and I’ll spend it in heaven
    Praise God.

    • Jay Gee

      Sorry, you lost me when you mentioned the guns. I don t want to live in a world where I have to take another’s life to save mine. If it comes to that, then it is time for me to go.

    • John DAmico

      Hi, I appreciate your thought, but the rapture does not happen before the tribulation. tribulation is broken down into 7 years, 7 months, 7 days. the 7 days is the bowl judgments of God so a rapture would /could happen then. Prepare yourself – brace yourself. We are all going through this for a while. and will be the Light in that darkness being care for by God but in major distressing times. If you need more info – get the book – How Pre-Trib Won by Apostle Stan Johnson of the prophecy club.. Great and helpful insight. If Jesus comes first / soon , great,,, but , what if it does not happen that way… thus the book will help the brain process it.

  16. KarenO

    Catherine (and all others not expecting Him at any moment,)

    As much as I would like to agree to wait due to “expected occurrences,” the earlier we hope for Him, the less likely we are to be caught off guard. I know that generations have hoped, not realizing that they didn’t have all the pieces in place – yet. (I’ve seen – helping someone clean out – oil & wine jugs that the owner’s grandparents [long passed away] had stored in the basement in the 30s, when Social Security numbers were instituted!)

    Right now we’re praying over our garden, so that we may have plenty to share. We pray for our farmers (many fields are going fallow because they’ve been bankrupted – either by tariffs or by low priced competition allowed to send products to the US – not to mention the hardships having restaurants closed for covid.)

    We pray for the lost, and that all his people come to peace & be ready when He returns.

    Further, in Matthew 24:29, He says, “immediately after the distress of those days…,” The days are already shortened (Enough for it to be recorded over time – but fluctuates & appears longer in the short term). We’re already seeing things occur in “diverse places,”
    We see the signs. We can extrapolate how the rest happens without being “right at the door.”
    I am not, in the least, eager to see the rest except in the shelter of His arms. If that is how it happens, then I’m prepared for that, too.

    Yes, we do not know WHAT we will need. If God gives it to store away, store it away! If God gives it to give away to those less fortunate, do it!
    When Jesus says, “Be ready, for you do not know the day nor the hour…” Matthew 25:13 (paraphrased) It doesn’t mean – “wait for a specific happening.”
    It means,

    “Expect me. I’ll shout to you when I’m there & take you “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye” (1 Corinthians 15:52a) Don’t miss me because you’re wrapped up in what’s happening or what you need on earth.” (ex. Parable of the ten bridesmaids – also in Matthew 25)

    I used to be a caregiver. Every single one on their death watch let me know they were ready to go.

    That’s how we know… & I am ready to go.

  17. This is not really that complicated. In January, this “virus” was a non-starter.
    In late January, President Trump finally announced his grand plan for mid-east peace. It involved ‘giving’ a big chunk of Jerusalem and Israel to the you-know-whos.
    Thus, he and the USA became one of those who would curse Israel. Didn’t take long after that, did it?

  18. Shinmen Takezo

    Yes this all seem very plausible–and it falls under the heading of “No $hite Sherlock”

    If anyone reacts and acts off of some guy’s dream–then they are insane. In the patriot movement there has been many such ‘dreams’ and ‘prophesies’ posted and publicized by so-called people of faith. And I do not see anything original from this guy who is just dreaming off of current events. You’ll get the same kinda’ dreams after watching horror or Sci-Fi movies.

  19. brian

    THANK YOU. I have had 2 separate dreams about Colorado Springs getting Nuked. Prepare. I hope you are wrong. I won,t say anything. I will be thank full for more time to prepare. There is no pre-tribe rapture. PREPARE AS THIS MAN HAS TOLD YOU.

  20. Paul Atriedes

    Spot on! Spot on! Brace yourself my brothers & sisters!

  21. William Lipscomb II

    Thank you Pastor Coverstone for the information given to you. I will deffinately heed the words and get back to a righteous walk.

  22. White bird

    I had a dream this week where I visited a restaurant slash grocery store, kinda run down looking. I ordered a beer and a Hot Dog to go, and the guy said it would cost 17 euros. Normally it costs 5-7 euros for that. I asked the guy, are you sure? And he looked serious and thought about it and was like, yeah it’s 17€. Like he had to raise the price and wasn’t trying to cheat the customer or anything. Inflation is coming worldwide.

  23. Hmmm, I was told early last week that something would happen in September.

    I was too tried to get up from the bed to write it down, immediately I woke up I forgot everything. The only thing I could remember even up till now is SEPTEMBER.

  24. Of all the visions and dreams I have come across on this site this one speaks to me as none other, I believe God is letting me (and many others) know this is what is coming, thank you for posting it, the time is now to be ready in spirit and mind.

  25. The Mad Jewess

    Everything is going to happen as he describes.
    We have 5 months to get prepared.
    I believe this man totally, 100%.

  26. Judgement comes in the fall is a phrase I have heard many times. I recall one word that said that as for the USA “the fall comes in the fall”. We have seen a number of prophetic words stating a far worse 2nd wave of the pestilence is coming later this year. I could easily see what the pastor said come to fruition.

  27. Bro. C

    I just saw a spectate post on fb that confirms your message of coins being taken out of circulation. It was a picture McDonald’s drive through with a sign that said, “ due to national shortage of coins, please use debit or credit if possible”. What a confirmation!! I also wanted to add a friend of mine had an encounter with an angel who had told him that there would 3 days of darkness hitting the world and following that would be 70 days of no power in the US. Sounds like an EMP. He said he was told it would happen sometime in November but I obviously take it with a grain of salt. We shall see though, I only mention it because it does seem to line up with his timing.

  28. Anna

    Holy $@&#!!
    Pardon my language.
    I have heard rumors. I have read this site enough to know that this kind of thing is coming. Just didn’t know when, whether this month or in 50 years. Now I know. Now I must prepare. I pray God will help and enable me, enable us. May he have mercy.

  29. gray

    PastorDana you are spot on. Your words line up with what the Lord is telling me too. Things are going to get so bad.

  30. McKana

    Thank you Pastor. God bless you.
    This is a confirmation of everything the Lord gave us and the testimonies posted here and everywhere.
    Few note is:-
    1. The Russians and the Chines are not going to walk in. No simple invasion
    War is involved, Nuclear war, cities burned is what Pastor Dana saw
    2. Make a note that what .the Pastor saw is war, civil war, economic collapse, mainly social aspects. No earthquake, no tsunami, no natural calamities. These things and more are involved
    3. The tribulation is here,
    4. Read the prophecy of sister Sarah Menet again until the point mentioned “The first winter” and see what is coming after that and the next winter too.
    5. and Remember what the Lord gave me “It is this winter, there you have it”
    This makes the antichrist arrival, the lawless one who rise to the stage in chaos and expect that too. In saying so, the Rapture is around once the anti is manifested and bombs start falling after the quake, gone yonder, that is it. Be ready, it is here.

    The true word is Brace Yourselves and add to it Brace for impacts. It is “The All out Storm” here.

    Organize what you do, organize your the communities and run if you have run since the church burning is telling us persecutions is here. Be ready to lead yourselves in the absence government, authorities and leaders. Anarchy, lawlessness and death is here.

    God is good and we are fortunate to have a warning way ahead, centuries and decades and moths and now days ahead of time.

    God bless you all

  31. M Hunja

    I concur with you on all. The Russians, Chinese and UN may not get a n right away and I don’t believe they will, but I believe that what starts in November will culminate into their coming in. I believe that events in September, November will lead to internal chaos (read nuclear), just like 911, That will lead to a war maybe multiple. That then leads to assassination then a split and total chaos stateside, that is invasion from the north, south and east.

  32. I agree & thanks for sharing. The 2nd half of 2020, the next 6 months will be much worse than the 1st 6 months.. joblessness, anarchy, looting, food crisis, even war, beside a 2nd & stronger wave of the Corona Virus. If the president is not reelected.. we will lose our 2nd Amendment rights to life, bearing arms, freedom of movement, of worship, & of speech. The stock market will crash, & all pension funds will be decimated. The US$ will also fail because of extreme debt, & the Mark of the Beast will graduallly be incorporated into the world’s system. Please see

    Four Comings Of Jesus Christ

    God bless you & yours,

  33. Ron Taylor

    This confirms what GOD has told me over the years thru dreams the most recent one was 2 months ago and it was a short 3 second dream of an angel that landed on the earth with a large key, and when he landed the key was plunged into the ground and it was with such force that it woke me. Upon waking I knew in my spirit that it was the key to the bottomless pit. Thank you brother for sharing what GOD put in your heart to prepare his people for what is coming.

  34. Jesus is coming soon ישוע

    hi guys god bless you all jesus is king

  35. Marc

    Again prepare food basics..
    Prepare spiritual power… daily in heartfelt prayer.
    Prepare to defend your family and friends.
    All else won’t matter..

  36. Hi, not sure if anyone brought this up but in regards to the yard sale dream…

    Seems your dream has already begun.

    We are in the end times. Seek God, walk in His power, love others, and do not fear.

  37. Hi Brother,,
    The second part of your dream is pointing to the future a decade or more. Not right know
    it will happen in the future as you reading it in the tribulation. Brace yourself is the warning
    to prepare your hart to the Lord and for his coming that still in the future. Some times we
    are convince fully that will happen but the timing of events not in our hands. God has a
    place for America in this last days. As the president said the best days of America is yet to
    come. That is what I have in my spirit and fully believe great prosperity come to this nation. Glorious events will take place under his leadership and the shadow government
    with all whos aiding them shall be dealt with. Brother we are human beings we can miss it. I am not the one to judge anyone I love you in Christ always. If you want to have contact with me here is my email address


  38. Daniel Slagle

    The nation’s have been weighed in the balance and are found wanting.
    Every thing that has exalted itself against the knowledge of the Lord will be cast down. Every arm of flesh, every idol, every trust of man will be shamed and brought to nothing.
    The Lord Will Be Glorified! He Will Not be mocked!

    The false will be exposed, and are found to be liars already, and the Lord Will lift up them who He Has Been Preparing, who have answered His Calling and sought Him, who went outside the camp and sat before Him.

    His thoughts for His Servants are good and not evil, to bring us to an expected end. Trust Him.

  39. Scott

    What’s in September? Two events. 9/11 anniversary & the end of the fiscal year.

    I thought the fist hitting the calendar in November meant that every organization that uses their fist as their slogan is going to strike.

    Since we know that the election results won’t be honored by the half of the country when their candidate looses. War will erupt, that will give cover for the UN to step in and restore order.

    Only when the UN steps in, that’s when the Communist Overthrow will be complete. This starts the, “Period Of Normalization”, which lasts indefinitely.

    Poor America.

    Anyone that’s an American Citizen & Communist are the most deceived of all communists. As soon as the UN Shows up. The American Commies that did the leg work for the invasion will be shot when found by the Foreign Communists.

    No competition.

  40. max vogan

    Schools being empty, is a great thing and a good thing. it stopped the the globalist from perverting the minds of our children

    2020 is going to be alright. People have had these type dreams for a long time here in America sense 2002.. they have always been proven untrue. Satan gives dreams like this to cause Great fear. Your dreams for December and March prove Satan is playing you with fear. It was proven through real video reporting the hospitals were empty NOT OVER FLOWING. DC was certainly not on fire either. Satan’s greatest tool is to make you fear.

    There were no lines in hospitals. People watched the hospitals and filmed Them.. they were empty because of fear .. So you got burned on that one. And we know the Main Stream news lies due to butt hurtness for losing to Trump. MSM’s have been crying and Lying sense 2016 So you see, news reports Means nothing

  41. John

    Stephen are you dumb?? America will never be prosperous again. These riots will not end it’s building up to civil war and total gang take over. The normalcy of America is over just wait for when the second wave of covid hits.

  42. JOHN HAE

    Since the creation of Adam and Eve we are that generation that is seeing with our own eyes the beginning of the end do not fear but rejoice because our savior is coming soon

  43. David

    I believe that for the last ten the years the Lord has allowed his people to pray and push things like this back. Are we finally in the delivery stage of of these birth pains and the Lord is about to allow these things to happen. Jesus come quickly…

  44. Antes de toda esta situação Deus também me deu visão de ver as cidades americanas a ferro e fogo. Vivo na Europa, nem sequer leio as notícias ou ouço. Recentemente mostrou-me destacando 3 vezes, a construção de um bloco com a china, coreia e um terceiro país que acho ser a Russia. Estes países formaram um bloco. A palavra preparem-se é a palavra de ordem que tenho ouvido também. Preparem-se fisica, espiritualmente e também mentalmente.
    Vi também uma onda gigante escura, densa pela qual temi pela vida. Percebi que Deus nos ajudaria, mas esta onda não é como esta que passamos do Covid, será feroz.
    Numa visão também vi as pessoas a brincar com dinheiro nas ruas, logo de seguida o rio vinha e levava o dinheiro todo, logo de seguida tive outra visão, vi uma mulher a gritar porque o seu filho pequeno, de 3 a 5 anos tinha morrido de fome. O anjo da morte estava a ver a cena pacientemente. A crise económica a fome e a guerra irão assolar o mundo. Os conflitos na América eram bem evidentes e o Trump estava no poder.
    Irmão, sempre que tiver visões por favor partilha conosco o meu email

  45. Susan

    I find this prophetic dream very interesting.

    The part about the country having no more coin is already coming true. My sister is a manager at a national chain store and they have been notified that change will be limited, and my daughter in another state took a picture of a sign at a grocery store announcing a nationwide coin shortage and to please use a debit/credit card.

    Additionally, I was given some supernatural confirmations for this message, therefore I am at the very least, awake and alert.

    Let go of preconceived notions, open your minds, and do not scoff. Sending prayers out for you all.

  46. K mclemore

    Keep you eyes on our Lord Jesus Christ. The maker of heaven and earth. The Alpha and the Omega. The beginning and the end. Our Savior ,our protector.
    The soon coming King,Our redeemer,Our only hope ,and our only salvation.
    Thank you Brother for being obedient and humble before our God. Greater is He that is in us than He that is in this world .
    May we as children of the most high God find a peace and a anticipation of these end time events.
    My we shine like stars in the universe in this dark world. May our hearts be open and sensitive to the Holy Spirit.

  47. Mario count how many i’s are in a sentence or book.

  48. Cal Parkdein

    Brothers, it is fruitless to argue with one another, especially at this time. They’ll know we are Christians by our love, the love of Christ which compels us.

    Let each of us take these things to the Lord in prayer, knowing that the Holy Spirit will guide us into all truth. If we know exactly what’s coming, when, where, why, who did it, and how to prepare perfectly, but we don’t have love, what does that benefit us?

    We love each other from the love Christ has for us, and anyone who does not love is not of God.

    We know it is a certainty that we will never be separated from the love of God in Christ. So in all situations we can rejoice and give thanks to our Lord. Are any of these things above things that have not already happened to mankind throughout history? We know that Jesus said he will never leave us nor forsake us. Let that be enough for us. And let us resolve to live for the Lord whether he takes us before, during, or after these things.

    The victory is already ours.

    In this world we will have persecution. But we can rejoice, because Christ has overcome this world.

  49. Pr. Aarão

    KarenO, ( and Bonnie)

    since you have quoted the Parable of the 10 virgins, note that the groom arrived at midnight.
    The groom did not arrive in the afternoon, nor in the early evening, He arrived at midnight. (mid week of 7 years)
    We will be tested for 3 ½ years. (1st. Co 15: 51- the rapture will only occur when the last (7th) trumpet resounds. Until it sounds, we will have to go through everything that will happen before!

    Pr. Aarão

  50. Lucian Lorenz

    It is confirmation of my dreams about Manhattan that i have posted several times over months now. In my First dream about manhatten in August 2019 it was autumn or late summer when the Freedom Tower in New York was destroyed and then the scene changed and all schools were closed in a time close to Christmas (after the tower was destroyed). The classrooms were empty and I felt a lot of chaos and Restlessness. Students wrote on paper that the bombs had exploded or fallen in New York, and then the schools were closed before christmas. (Long time i dont know what this means but since a couple weeks i know what that means. Corona wave 2. Pastor Dana coverstone
    also speaks of September and in my first dream about Manhattan and the fire in the new WTC I could see the famouse blue lights (the 9/11 Tributes). When I saw the lights, the old two wtc towers suddenly appeared in the skyline and then quickly disappeared again. Then directly after that i saw the OneWorldTradeCenter burn down to the ground. Many explosuons going off. That was a reference to 9/11. Will it be in September? It would fit with the feeling that we was in late summer / early atumn in my dreams. The ffeling was: End of summer/ or beginning autmn) Maybe the kick off event will happen in Manhattan in the same month as 9/11? September?

    if that happened in september we would have the chaos in november. All year round I had the deep feeling that no normal US elections would take place this year because something would happen beforehand that intervenes. I did not have the feeling that there were no elections but that these would be different than normal. either way it’s going to be a very interesting and turbulent next six months, that’s for sure!

    Last summer I had another dream where I saw an autumnal path and then I stood in the garden of the wise house and everything was on fire including the white house.

  51. Gray

    This is very interesting! I have been getting, watch New York City from the Lord for over a year. This is really interesting! Also, the Lord gave me a time window for the Saints to get everything prepared from May until November! Sense 2021 a rough ride is coming!

  52. Debra E. Colby

    This is a google translation of alexfiga’s post:

    Before all this situation, God also gave me a vision to see American cities with iron and fire. I live in Europe, I don’t even read the news or listen. Recently he showed me highlighting 3 times, the construction of a block with China, Korea and a third country that I think is Russia. These countries formed a bloc. The word get ready is the watchword I have heard too. Prepare yourself physically, spiritually and also mentally.
    I also saw a giant dark wave, dense for which I feared for life. I realized that God would help us, but this wave is not like the one we passed from Covid, it will be fierce.
    In a vision I also saw people playing with money in the streets, right after that the river came and took all the money, right after that I had another vision, I saw a woman screaming because her little son, from 3 to 5 years old had died from hunger. The angel of death was watching the scene patiently. The economic crisis, hunger and war will plague the world. The conflicts in America were very evident and Trump was in power.
    Brother, whenever you have visions please share my email with us.

    Deb Colby

    P.S. If you can somehow squeeze this post in acter the original Portuguese post, I would appreciate it.

  53. Tim

    I am just trying to figure out why June was emphasized.
    (March= Covid, June= ??? end of part 1 with opening of the economy OR start of wave 2 ???, OR a 2nd chance to prepare for what is comming starting September…???). Any inspired ideas? Thanks.

  54. count voo

    We are our own self creators, and we are continually creating our realities according to our inner beliefs, thoughts, and feelings.
    We produce our own destiny (and this is our Free choice).
    The paths in which we choose produce our destinies.
    Jesus teaches that our paths need be based on Love/Kindness/Fellowship of goodness and service to others.
    It is naturally predictable that our (collective) woeful thought and feeling materializes those results….just as Our Loving and kindness thoughts/feelings materializes peaceful surroundings.
    We shall go thru this great awakening in our assentions into our higher spiritual beingness.
    Is it easy? For many such as I, no
    Is it possible? If we can hold onto our faith and belief in the good we can make it!.

  55. Sarah

    I had also dream vor 1 or 2 weeks and I head only “September,September!” but with worry voice.

  56. Beth

    @ Catherine
    Study the Bible and not YouTube videos and man’s ideas. The Bible is clear the rapture is pre-trib. Look at the original language. You will see you are wrong.

  57. Graham

    Beth is so right!

  58. John Randolf

    PLEASE READ this interpretation of Pastor Dana’s dreams:

  59. Re the Brace Yourself message, this is highly credible. In the Bible, when two dreams give basically the same message then it’s from God. Examples: in Genesis, Joseph, while with his family had two dreams about them later bowing/submitting to him. That happened. Then Pharaoh had two dreams essentially saying the same thing and they were interpreted by Joseph. Both dreams were also confirmed. Another reason this is credible is that it’s the nature of a holy God to judge, and He has warned us by several warning judgments as outlined in Deut. 28. Also, there is no time limit on predictive pophecy; see Joel 2:28 for just one supporting passage. From 2016-2019 the Lord sent me to street preach from NC to CA warning people of God’s coming judgment primarily from nuclear war and a foreign invasion. I received dreams in 2011 and 2017 about the invasion.

  60. Huafei Xing

    March, June, September, and the unusual November. The third hour, the sixth hour, the ninth hour, and the unusual eleventh hour (Matthew 20). See you in the vineyard, my beloved co-workers!

  61. gustolphusadolphus

    Pastor Dana Coverstone is pre-trib. We should be looking for the Blessed Hope, not the A/C or the tribulation. It’s the Doctrine of Immanency that is supported by at least four scriptures:

    1. For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, Phil.3:20

    2. Looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, Titus 2:13

    3. wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. 1 Thes.1:10

    4. Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation, Heb. 9:28

  62. Natasha Twine

    Doug Addison just responded to this prophecy.

  63. Kathy K.

    Dear all,

    My name is Kathy, I’m not American & I don’t reside in America. I’m Kenyan. Please take Pastor Coverston’s warning seriously.

    I’m a believer in Christ & have seen some of the things coming to America plus other nations including my own.

    1. Covid-19 will cause a lot of death in the USA.
    2. Chaos & confusion coming your way shortly.
    3. President Trump will be re-elected (God has a purpose for him). All believers need to pray for him. In Kenya, Zimbabwe… (Africans) who see & hear in the spirit are praying for Pres. Trump. No matter how bad he looks to the amazement of many including myself God wants him there for a 2nd term.
    4. Those of you talking about rapture… Plz look deeper in the Word. These things are happening now do brace yourselves.

  64. Kathy K.

    Dear all,

    My name is Kathy, I’m not American & I don’t reside in America. I’m Kenyan. Please take Pastor Coverston’s warning seriously.

    I’m a believer in Christ & have seen some of the things coming to America plus other nations including my own.

    1. Covid-19 will cause a lot of death in the USA.
    2. Chaos & confusion coming your way shortly.
    3. President Trump will be re-elected (God has a purpose for him). All believers need to pray for him. In Kenya, Zimbabwe… (Africans) who see & hear in the spirit are praying for Pres. Trump. No matter how bad he looks to the amazement of many including myself God wants him there for a 2nd term.
    4. Those of you talking about rapture… Plz look deeper in the Word. These things are happening now do brace yourselves.

  65. gustolphusadolphus


    The comment made today by Michelle Gibson on Z3 News of her dream of American troops surrendering alog a coastline to the invaders in the coming invasion as revealed in Pastor Coverstone’s dream has all been orchestrated by the elites to set up a communist world government, the New World Order or Satan’s counterfeit of the coming millennium. That is why the Brits will allow the Russian armada to pass without firing a shot and why Canada will stand down as revealed in another recent dream/vision. It’s why the police have stood down in the cities and why the military stopped Trump from bringing the National Guard into D.C.. It also explains why American big business is financing BLM. It’s a major BETRAYAL!!!!!! The elites have been demonized through their participation in child sexual abuse (Lolita Express) , greed and all kinds of corruption which opened the doors to a multitude of spirits including betrayal, violence and communism. There will shortly be martial law where they’ll take our guns and offer voting by mail. This massive betrayal will trigger civil war setting the stage for the invasion.
    What is happening now is the Spirit of Iniquity running wild just like the reign of terror of the French and Russian Revolutions. But God is allowing this because America has turned from God.and become reprobate. We are in the prologue to the tribulation.

  66. gustolphusadolphus

    Pastor Dana Coverstone is a pre-trib rapture believing preacher. Jesus said the end times will be like be like the times of Noah. Enoch was raptured before the flood and God saved Noah and his family through the storm, eight people. Could this be the ratio in today’s Church of the remnant that are raptured and those who are luke warm Laodiceans who will be tested further during the coming trib? Food for thought. Many are called but few are chosen. Brace yourself and get your life in order. God is warning His bride.

  67. Pr. Aarão

    Beth. @Caterine KarenO

    The rapture will really take place before the outpouring of God’s Wrath, which begins in Revelation 17.
    The rapture will take place after the last trumpet resounds – Compare 1a. Corinthians 15:51 with Revelation 10: 7 concerning the mystery of God.
    Therefore, everything that will happen between the opening of the 1st. seal- Revelation 6: 1- until the 7th resonates. Trumpet – Revelation 11:15 – the church will be here, because the tribulation is not the outpouring of the Wrath of God, which only begins in Revelation 17.
    The Greek term for Tribulation is not the same for the Wrath of God (The book was written in Greek)
    There in Matthew 24: 9The Lord Jesus, speaking about the Church, exhorts us: Then you will be (thlipsin) troubled, and they will kill you. You will be hated by all nations, because of my name and in Matthew 24:21 – 21 because in that time there will be a great (thlipsis) tribulation, as from the beginning of the world until now there has not been and never will be.
    In Matthew 24: 29 Right after the (thlipsin) tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, the moon will not give its light, the stars will fall from the firmament, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken
    So Tribulation is “THLIPSIN”.
    The word IRA that the Biblical text refers to “ORGE”, which is in Thessalonians 1:10 and that many use to say that the rapture will be before the tribulation, which is a mistake.
    Thessalonians 1:10 – “… and wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, namely, Jesus, who delivers us from the future IRA [orge].
    We see this after the resound of the 7th. Trumpet, announcing that the rapture has happened and now the Wrath of God will come:
    Revelation 11:18 “And the nations were angry, and YOUR WRATH [ORGE] came, and the time of the dead, that they might be judged, and the time to give the reward to the prophets, your servants, and the saints, and to those who fear your name, small and large, and the time to destroy those who destroy the earth.
    That is why the Church has to prepare to be tested and persecuted during the 3 ½ years of the Tribulation.
    God enlighten everyone.

    Pr. Aaron

  68. John Middleton

    Good golly, people! Wise up!

  69. Kenneth M Heck

    What can we make of the balled -up fist that slammed into the month of November, creating a hole in the wall? Doesn’t this remind anyone of an asteroid or comet strike?

    There are already numerous dreams and visions of asteroid strikes in the Atlantic Ocean on the internet. What happens immediately after the strike is a tsunami hundreds of feet high devastating shorelines for miles inland, plus enormous earthquakes in response to the shock of the asteroid’s impact.

    For America an Atlantic strike would be an unparalleled disaster, realistically generating all the events Pastor Coverstone saw in his dreams.

    Since so many people have already seen the Atlantic strike, it may not have been needed for Pastor Coverstone to see it, rather the subsequent events would be the point of the dreams.

  70. angela carpenter

    Thank you pastor Dana for sharing with us. I am a follower of Christ and I too have been having what I feel are prophetic dreams. I felt the hair on my neck stand up when you revealed the dream of the calendar. I had a very similar dream several months ago in which I clearly saw a calendar in the sky made of clouds and the number 2020 at the top. Beside the cloud was a warrior riding a red and white horse and holding a spear. We must indeed brace ourselves for the times that will come, when men’s heart will fail from the fear of what is taking place. May God bless you and your ministry and I will add you to my prayer list requesting that He will continue to use you for His glory.

  71. angela carpenter

    Thank you pastor Dana for sharing with us. I am a follower of Christ and I too have been having what I feel are prophetic dreams. I felt the hair on my neck stand up when you revealed the dream of the calendar. I had a very similar dream several months ago in which I clearly saw a calendar in the sky made of clouds and the number 2020 at the top. Beside the cloud was a warrior riding a red and white horse and holding a spear. We must indeed brace ourselves for the times that will come, when men’s heart will fail from the fear of what is taking place. May God bless you and your ministry and I will add you to my prayer list requesting that He will continue to use you for His glory.

  72. Carolyn

    Possible answer for Tim—What happened in June? Possibly the asteroid that hit the earth that media didn’t report which caused the dust in the air. More asteroids are coming.

  73. Daniel Noah

    PR Aaron: You need enlightenment…so get off your high horse. ” The church has to be tested? Revelation 3:10 ” Because you have kept my word about patient endurance, I will keep thee Grk -ek- /out of/ the hour of trial that is to coming on the whole world, to try those who dwell on the earth.” We can’t be here for the 1st 3.5 yrs of the tribulation, as the Antichrist cannot come on the scene until the restrainer(Holy Spirit) vacates His position of restraining evil. The dispensation of grace ends with the rapture of the 5 wise virgins…before A/C shows.

    2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 ” For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He who now letteth will -continue- let, until He be taken out of the way.” V. 8 ” And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming.” Tomorrow night(Sat- July18th 20, I will hopefully enlighten you further, unless you are too proud to see the error of your pontificating on a subject of which, you do not even understand the basics.

  74. Daniel Noah

    P.R. Aaron and All Rapture Doubters: Antichrist Cannot Appear Until…

    2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 ” Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,” -V.2- “That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.” V.3 ” Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come- ‘The Departure’- first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”

    Now I know your Bible says ‘a falling away first,’ but that just was not in the first seven English Bibles translated from the Greek manuscripts. The word ‘apostasia’ means ‘departure’ and the ‘the’ in front of it means a definite article/a specific event, not some abstract non specific falling away, without any way to quantify or establish a level to wit of walking away. ‘Falling away,’ is a nebulous connotation, why the definite article/a specific event/ in front of ‘apostasia’.

    The context of the verse, determines a physical departure or an abstract departure of the faith. And yet, why the definite article- ‘the’- prefacing ‘apostasia’, that ushers in/creates/allows the Antichrist to come to the fore… If the Greek writers wanted to convey a fall(ing)they would not use ‘apostasia’, but rather use ‘pipto’ /I fall/fall, a specific word in Greek for ‘falling-away.’ Our concern, is what the Greek word meant to the 1st century reader.

    Context: V.7 ” For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He(Holy Spirit) who now letteth will let, until He(Holy Spirit)be taken out of the way.” The dispensation of grace ends and the world returns to the dispensation of law, as the Holy Spirit vacates at the rapture…though people can still be ‘born again’, and have the Holy Spirit within during the ‘Tribulation,’- Revelation 13:7 ” And it was given unto him(Antichrist)to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him(Antichrist)over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”- Rev. 13:7 is pretty clear. The 7 English Bibles: Wycliff-1384/ Tyndale-1526/ Coverdale-1535/ Cranmer-1539/ Breeches-1576/ Beza-1583/ Geneva -1608. All stated ‘The Departure’, not ‘falling away’. The Latin Vulgate-400 A.D., rendered ‘apostasia’ as ‘discessio’ which means ‘Departure’.

    Why one expositor on the KJV staff felt ‘led’ to change ‘The Departure’ to ‘falling away’… was never explained.

  75. Steve

    David Wilkerson gave a prophecy almost 30 years ago that specifically addressed the very issues you saw in your dream and he said even more about how our society and government would be in such a fallen state of wickedness. He told about how porn of the most depraved kind would be readily available to anyone and everyone who wanted to find it, which at the time seemed utterly, impossible, but with the internet, that part of the prophecy is absolutely fulfilled. He spoke about how the people in our government would be overcome with fear because of the violently armed lawlessness they would be helpless to prevent or contain, which again, has been fulfilled. When I read his prophetic predictions 30 years ago, I thought he was REALLY pushing the limit of impossibility but now, on June 22, of 2020, I see Pastor David may have restrained himself a little bit. No matter what though… Jesus is King, He is sovereign, and He will be glorified as He reigns in and through us in what seems to be the last of the last days. I NEVER thought I’d see these things occurring in my lifetime though. So… as much as it appears like it’s entirely possible that the horrors of the final times may be upon us, It is my prayer that I may serve Jesus, my King, in any way He desires, to serve my brothers and sisters in Christ as I’m led by the Holy Spirit, and to proclaim the Gospel by my actions and speech to whomever God sees fit to send my way for as long as I’m alive on this planet. Thank you Pastor Dana for your willingness to proclaim what you have been shown to any who might listen. I pray you continue to see and proclaim more since it appears the things you saw in those dreams are coming to pass.

  76. laurel clear

    Read Acts 2:17!! We are living in the last days of the last days! Watch SBN! We have to stick together brothers and sisters! Pray pray pray! Love you all! Jesus will never leave us or forsake us! He has already won the battle!

  77. stu

    Rednyek, there won’t be a rapture till the very end just before Jesus returns. We will all be put in the press and many of us will die. Understand now? Where is your faith? Can you deal with that? The early Christians did, it’s up to us to represent Jesus to the L-O-S-T.

  78. Phyllis Grant

    July 22, 2020 I had a Dream. I went to the backdoor to let my little dog out and everything was in place but there was a strange lighting. Like a Total Eclipse of the Sun. I was afraid but she went out. I turned and went to my front door to see what it looked like there. Everything was in its place but again the strange lighting. Pinkish yellow in hue with darkness of the light.
    I knew this meant something and it was not good.

  79. Daniel Noah

    Stuart : I do not know to whom you are referring, but you obviously do not know your Bible and live in a bubble sound bite world. reread those comments by Daniel Noah. You must stand on the word. All else is sinking sand. The Antichrist can not come on the scene until the Holy spirit dispensation of grace ends with the rapture of the 5 wise virgins. Are you saying that Jesus was -is- a liar? Matthew 24;37-41 “one taken, one left,” is obviously before the 7 yr. tribulation…as no one is working in the world w/o the mark of the beast, which seals one’s fate as forever lost to hell.

  80. Pete

    We’re in those days. Seems like so many are having dreams and visions. I remember watching – Escape from NY – last December and something told me that there was more truth than fiction coming. HE is in charge and believe HE’s getting ready to rapture HIS people soon. Isaiah 26: 19-21 looks like the “time of trial” explaining this cv pandemic. This latest peace treaty seems to confirm the cry of “peace and safety.” I hope people will look at the book of truth (promised to be open in the last days) and mostly summarized in Daniel 11. Thanks for the information and allowing us to post.

  81. Pr. Aaron

    It is incredible that any dream or Word about the difficulties we are going through, people soon speak of the Rapture and destruction of America.
    September will pass, even if it is struggling because of the pandemic and its consequences.

    You don’t have to be a prophet to say that things are going wrong, just read the newspapers.
    The end time, the Tribulation period (3 ½ years) and the Pouring of God’s Wrath (3 ½ more years) has not yet started, nor will it be in September, or october or november, be absolutely sure of this.

    2 Thessalonians 2: 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
    Antichrist has not yet been revealed, even though some claim “tooth and nail” that he is Obama.

    The revelation of the Son of Perdition has not yet happened and will not be announced through the “guesswork” of some.

    In November there will be elections and we can have a lot of noise because the side that loses will not accept defeat normally. But we will not have Chinese or UN troops at that time, rest assured.
    So, beloved, this is the perseverance of the saints, to wait and walk in the ways of the Lord, even though it seems to take time to fulfill His Word.

    I ALERT SOME: Don’t be frustrated or disappointed if what you imagine doesn’t work out the way you want it to. The Lord’s time is the Lord’s, and He does not err or deceive.

    Pr. Aaron

  82. Pr. Aaron

    Outra coisa muito importante para sabermos o momento em que as coisas começarão a acontecer “pra valer”;
    1 Tessalonicenses 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    E o que é que estamos ouvindo hoje: Destruição, Epidemia,
    possibilidade de guerra, guerra civil, etc…
    Não estamos ouvindo falar em paz e Segurança…

    Salmo 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

    2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

    3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

    Salmo 46:10 Aquietem-se e saibam que eu sou Deus!

    Pr. Aaron
    Another very important thing to know when things will start to happen “for real”;
    1 Thessalonians 5: 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    And what we are hearing today: Destruction, Epidemic,
    possibility of war, civil war, etc …
    We are not hearing about peace and security …

    Psalm 91: 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

    2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

    3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

    Psalm 46:10 Be still and know that I am God!

    Pr. Aaron

  83. John


    @ Catherine
    Study the Bible and not YouTube videos and man’s ideas. The Bible is clear the rapture is pre-trib. Look at the original language. You will see you are wrong.

    Sorry Beth, it is you who is wrong, It is you who needs to read there bible. Lets look at the scriptures. 1 thessalonians 5.9 For God has not appointed us to wrath, people mistake this has to say, God will remove us before all the trouble starts, but what it means is, we will be gone before God pours out is wrath upon man. If you read Revelation 6 verse 12 & 13 and compare Matthew 24 verse 29 it means the same thing. Also If you read the next verse in Matthew 24 verse 30. It says And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. This is when Gathering ( Rapture ) occurs. Because after in Revelation 7 it talks about a great crowd stood before the throne of God. Also in Revelation 8. This is when the wrath of God starts, and has God says, we will not be here. There is only one rapture, Also If you read Revelation 6 verses 9 & 10, where the souls under the altar are asking God, when O lord, are you going to avenge us, and God say a little longer, so this proves God has not brought is wrath or Judgement on man.

  84. Ed

    A great number of comments with a great number of interpretations.

    I simply want to add that we Christians MUST root all visions and dreams against scriptures. When Jesus was talking to HIs disciples He warned them about misleading doctrines and false prophets. He told them this specifically with regard to the end times! The entire 13th chapter of Mark is about His 2nd coming. He said, “I have FORETOLD you all things.” (Mark 13:23).

    Therefore, all that we need to know is embedded within the scriptures.

    I’ll say what Jesus said. “Have you not read?”
    (Matthew 12:3 & 5, 19:4, Mark 12:10 & 26, Luke 6:3 to name a few)

    Personally, I believe most of what Dana has said. We will be led into captivity because that is what is foretold. (A very lengthy study with an immense amount of scriptures) We (the good old USA) will be destroyed. Yes, we will have troubles upward that time but they are precursors to the invasion and captivity of God’s people. It will happen as God has said it will. Use your abilities to search the scriptures for the numerous examples. We are instructed to do that. (1 Corinthians 10:11 & Isaiah 41:22)

    I also need to say we will NOT be raptured away. Consider what defines a church scripturally. It is when 2 or more are gathered in His name. There are no examples where two or more believes are removed from some disaster or catastrophe. To the contrary, they typically are saved through the ordeal rather than around it. Subsequently, an individual in scriptures (apart from a woman used metaphorically) is NOT the church. Daniel was a representation of the law (or a prophet) not the church. The same goes for types like Moses or Noah. They EACH endured hardships. Several went into exiled, like Daniel into Babylon. Think about it, Daniel was saved THROUGH the lions den. Noah was saved THROUGH the flood. Moses was saved from pharaoh THROUGH the sea. The Israelites were saved from the plagues but were there and went THROUGH events in Egypt. Even Daniel’s 3 friends were saved THROUGH the fire not from it.

    No, we will ALL be tried THROUGH the fire to become purer. No one is without their cross that they MUST bear. You are not a disciple otherwise.(Luke 14:27 and Gal 6:5)

    We shouldn’t be the sottish (ignorant/unlearned/uneducated/dumb) individuals that God identifies as among His own children. (Jer 4:22).
    We should be checking every word against His Word. (2 Timothy 3:16)
    We should study to show ourselves approved unto God. (2 Timothy 2:15)

    He says through the prophet Hosea that we are destroyed for a lack of knowledge. (Hosea 4:5-6) Basically, most Americans, Christians included, don’t read nor study His personal letter to each and every one of us. We need to draw close to Him. Heck, the very first Proverb is all about wisdom & understanding. The need to seek God in wisdom and understanding. Look at verses 5, 7, 22 and 29 (Proverb 1). This is why God will laugh at us in our coming calamities and mock our fear. (verse 26) Not something fun to read or think about.

    Remember, that when God turns His back on us, He won’t hear us nor will we receive messages or visions. (1 Sam 3:1 & Ezekiel 7:24-27) Though it’s true we will have food famines to come here in the USA and later during the Great Tribulation, the famine of the end times is not just for material stuff but moreover because we are spiritually thirsty & hungry.
    (Amos 8:11)

    So, in conclusion of my dissertation (sorry), I do believe personal visions and dreams but simply want them to be applied against His Word. Peace.

  85. gray

    This is very true

  86. Ed

    Rapture is not happening soon here people. This dream could just be a warning dream to pray against this. There are many more things that need to happen before Jesus returns.

  87. Daniel Noah

    Mr. Ed: Matthew 24:37 ” But as the days of Noah were so shall also the coming/arrival of the Son of man be.”
    v.38 ” For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, {So, in the world, it must be business as usual.
    The people are still free to eat and drink
    socially, get married at a church. The shadow of
    masks and social gathering (ID-2020/vaccine with fallen angel DNA inside same)
    restrictions(Beta test)are akin to the ark being
    loaded with animals…}
    v. 39 ” And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming/arrival of the Son of man be.”
    Judgment. The ‘ark’ this time around will be
    heaven. Why? Because Rev. 13:7
    “And it was given unto him(Antichrist)to make war with the saints, and to overcome(KILL)them: and power was given him(A/C)over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
    v. 40 Then shall two be in the field: the one shall be taken, and the other one left.’ The same for v. 41…

    This is before the Tribulation,as one of the conditions of employment during the Tribulation, is to have the mrk of the beast, which when taken negates the Jesus’ blood sacrifice on the cross. The mrk/vaccine, has a 3rd strand of DNA from fallen angels…so, if these two are working during the Tribulation, it means they both took the mrk, in order to work. And both are going to hell… obviously, this removal is before the Tribulation.

    Only a small group from Israel will flee(at 3.5 yr mrk when A/C enters the 3rd Temple and declares he is God.) to Petra, Jordan and kept safe by God.

    The Christian eradication will start , after the Holy Spirit departs(ending the dispensation of grace) w/the 5 wise virgins at the rapture. The peace pact(7 yr)will be signed, initiating the Tribulation.

    God’s Trumpet sounded in Exodus 19:16, signifying the initiation of the dispensation of law… God The Father came down in clouds to meet Moses on the mtn top of Sinai. The voice of the trumpet heralding His appearance
    The dispensation of grace ends with the trump of God at the rapture of the 5 wise virgins. Jesus descends in clouds. God The Father; the God of physics and time, inserts Daniel’s 70th week at this point, so that the 7 yr Tribulation can ‘legally’ commence.

    Jesus, in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 ” For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, THE TRUMP OF GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air….” The dispensation of grace was initiated at the cross and actuated at Pentecost.
    2nd Thessalonians 2:1-9 makes this abundantly clear. Daniel IHS

  88. Ed L.

    @ Daniel Noah

    Please note that there are two Ed’s on this thread. I post the former and at length. Whereas the most resent and shorter is not from me. As it is I will answer accordingly.

    First may I say I appreciate your remarks and am glad you are in the Word. Regardless if we can reach a mutual understanding it is always good to remain in the Word.

    Read Matthew 24 with understanding. Unlike the book of Revelation which is replete with symbolism and the chapter of Matthew is written and spoken to from Jesus Christ to His disciples. Whenever He spoke with His disciples He did not speak in parables, as was the prophecy regarding everyone else. Therefore, you are to read, line upon line, precept upon precept. (Isaiah 28:10)

    Therefore, the message in Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke 21 was given to His disciples PRIVATELY. (Matt 24:3, Mark 13:3) It was told to His disciples plainly, and straight forward. It was told in DESCENDING order.

    Your quote about Noe (Greek for Noah) starts in verse 37. (Matt 24:37) Yet the subject of His 2nd return and the events start way back in verse 4! Why didn’t you at least start in verse :36 which states:

    “36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

    39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”

    What hour??? The hour for the RETURN of the Lord. Read verse 30 (which proceeds verses 36-40.

    “30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.”

    The Son of Man (Jesus Christ) returns (verse 30; above) FOLLOWED by the COLLECTION (or some call it the rapture) of the elect after the tribulations of verse 21 and 29 as is said in the very next verse (verse 31)

    “31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.”

    You see, God’s fire brands (you have to know your Hebrew) are here through the tribulations. They are His “can-do” people who know His scriptures and will not bend a knee as in the time of Daniel.

    Now, you also quote verse 40 in this same chapter of Matthew. Notice the verse right before it again.

    “39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    40 THEN shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”

    Yes, then when Jesus Christ returns we are collected (raptured) to Christ. That’s not before the tribulations. Do you realize that this same truth correlates with all the messages of the prophets??? (Isaiah through Zechariah). We won’t fly away until after.

    Now, lets go to Revelation 13 where you also quoted scriptures.
    Start with verse one to keep the subject. Here we see the 7 head/10 horn beast rise out of the peoples (seas). Notice in verse 4 that the dragon gives it power. That means the dragon (satan, Lucifer, the devil) is already ON EARTH. Did you get that??? Verse 6 says the beast is granted power for the defamation of YHVH (God). Verse 7 then speaks about the war the beast has with the saints.

    A sIde note: these are the saints of Daniel 7:21, 8:13 & 23-24 (Holy people referring to the prior subject) and 11:31-33.

    Notice that verse 8 in Revelation then speaks about the worship of the beast and verse 9 makes a point of clarity?

    And finally, you did not read verse 10.

    “10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.”

    Yes, the patience of the saints (elect). The PATIENCE AND THE FAITH of the saints. Do you hear that? Some will be lead into captivity who accept captivity while others who fight back (sword/shot gun/firearms) will die by the sword (shot gun/firearms).

    This all precedes the SECOND beast spoken of in the very next verse.

    Look brother, the book of Revelation is awesome and an overlay of all the other prophetic book. Christians in the world are not going to rapture away before the fun starts. That is not scriptural and is contrary to all the other prophets.

    Lastly, as far a 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17

    “15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

    My question, WHEN does Jesus Christ descend from Heaven? After the tribulations I pointed out in Matthew, Daniel and Revelation. Please read with understanding.

    Blessings and peace.
    Brother Ed benYHVH

  89. Daniel Noah

    Mr. Ed : My goodness A parable is a sound teaching device by Jesus…to whom is immaterial. I think your ensample of v. 4 in Matthew 24 is apropos.

    To sabbath keepers or else the wrath of God.
    Colossians 2:16 ” Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or a sabbath days:
    So, a doctor who works at the emergency room and his nurses are all sinning.

    Matthew 22:35 “Master, which is the greatest commandment in the law? v.37…”Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind,” v 38 ” This is the first and great commandment” v. 39 “and the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.” v. 40 ‘On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.”

    Compare v 36 from Matthew 24 with Hebrews 10:25 ” Not forsaking the the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much more, as you see the day approaching.” As it was in the days of NOE…Noah knew the year of the flood, not the day or hour.

    Before the Antichrist is revealed to the world, the 5 wise virgins have already been raptured-exit with the Holy Spirit. The trump of God in 1Thessalonians 4:16 is God The Father signaling the end of the dispensation of grace and the inserting of the dispensation of law…Daniel’s 70th week is inserted into our current timeline. Ed, sometimes I also sit a little too high in the saddle. Daniel IHS

  90. Ed L.


    If your saddle is too high please adjust it.

    Jesus spoke in parables to fulfill prophecy. Matt. 13:34-35
    They could be confusing which He had to explain to His disciples from time to time. How don’t you understand that?

    Have you never read Mark chapter 4? (Read it, please)
    Especially verses 10-11.
    That is all I was saying. Jesus explained the parables to His chosen not to the general public at the time. Straight forward without any confusion. Got it?

    Secondly, never said I was the judge. People can celebrate and worship God how they feel they should. I’m not against the different styles of churches.
    However, we somehow think that since Jesus summed up the Law in those two statements that we can now kill, murder, lie, steal, covet, and yes forget the sabbath. Look, you do what you want on the sabbath as everyone does. That was my point. You think all things are holy? Everything your heart desires on the Sabbath is good?

    Use Jesus as your example. What did He do? Went to a temple and discussed scriptures? He healed. He spent time in fellowship. Did he go shopping, play a round of golf, watched a football game, etc.

    I agree, it is GOOD to do GOOD on the Sabbath but not whatever we THINK is GOOD. (Go doctors and nurses; I’m not against you all!). Again, got it????
    Just do what our Lord would do, right?

    Heck, isn’t Jesus the ultimate example???

    As with regard to the rapture, it happens after the tribulation(s). Proof?
    Matthew 24 verse 31 that comes after verse 30; Mark 13 verse 27 after verse 26. In both chapters the tribulation(s) occurs BEFORE Jesus Christ return. Oh, I know people will try and say the elect are not the saints or are not the Christians. I’ve heard all kind of explanations to change the actual words spoken of by Jesus Christ. Just read it and accept it. Who is a false prophet?

    As for 1 Thessalonians 4:16, WHEN does our Lord descend from heaven with the shout of an arch angel & the trumpet of God??? Well, I could give you a total scriptural doctrinal on the subject but lets let Paul (who wrote both letters; 1st & 2nd Thessalonians) answer this gathering back to Christ in his 2nd letter.

    2 Thessalonians 2

    “2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING TOGETHER unto HIM,” (That’s the subject of this discussion)


    “2:3 …for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, AND that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.”

    Please check out the Greek word for “falling away”. It only has 1 meaning and it is Christians (believers) falling away to a false belief. Who was Paul writing too? (Christians)
    Also did you notice the use of a conjunction? The word “and” that I emphasized. That means BOTH events must happen BEFORE we gather back to Christ. Period! When is the son of perdition suppose to be here on earth? Keep reading and you’ll find out that he will sit in the temple (which as of August 2020) has not been rebuilt.

    People will then ignore this whole section and quote other scriptures trying to prove the rapture. Look, stop and just read with understanding. Jesus was not trying to confuse His disciples in Matthew and Mark. It wasn’t a parable either. That was my point.

    Look, you don’t have to believe me. I don’t want anything to happen to the USA. It is my home and I am very happy with it. However, God’s Word will happen as He says. Like it or lump it. All the prophets foretold us this. I must (and do) accept His Word as is. Do you my brother?

    Sorry if I’m a bit too ‘salty’ for you but then again I am doing what Jesus told me to be. Matt 5:13


    Ed L. benYHVH


  91. Diane Fuller

    You are right on but it is more serious if you are not aware of these prophets visions. Please google Americas Last Days Blog spot, Chuck Youngbrandt’s Prophecy Maps, William Brananan Prophecies. We are invaded. There is a video by a pastor named Shane Warren on Charisma News. Google Shane Warren’s Invasion of America Charisma News. He sees a meeting of the countries plotting together to invade us. They are China, Russia, N. Korea, Niccaragua Iran physically. Many people have recently seen this and reported on their channels. Google a man named John Leary. Google Homepage John Leary. He has traveled or 20 years preparing people for this time. Very soon people marked with a cross on their forehead will see a flame that will come to them. Interior of you will be told where to go to a safe refuge. There are many. These will provide housing, food and everything you will need even if you come with only the clothes on your back. This is for Gods remnant that will go through this tribulation.

    America is going to be taken over by the enemy for being given Trump but never repenting for killing children through abortion, passing laws to let them die if they survived abortion, and for the trafficking of children and perverse sexual laws. Making these the law of the land crosses barriers with God. Taking Him out of everything also is a great sin. Just like ancient Israel, He allows the enemy to overrun them and then destroys it. America will have civil war and there will be another worse virus sprayed by aerosol this fall. In John League’s messages he says the Lord will call his own into safe refuges where they will remain covered over unseen and provided for by multiplication until the rapture at the end and His return. He has said only those living according to his teachings will be marked. Others will be left behind and die or come after conversion. Before this 2nd virus is sprayed He’ll call them all in. Be sure to go or you will not be safe. He has said all no matter what is happening will be safely taken to the closest refuge near them. Others are also being given this information besides John Leary. Thank you for warning all. You are being given truth.

  92. Daniel Noah

    Ed L. Well, Ed, it seems I’ve not been asked to leave, but certainly handed my hat.
    The rapture and it’s qualifications are somewhat like the statement
    about heaven, by Samuel Langehorne Clemons…
    “Heaven goes by favor, if it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.” Mark Twain

    Long day… I’ll have words of substance tomorrow.
    God speed, Ed L.
    Daniel IHS

  93. C

    I thought the bible states that Jesus doesn’t return again until after Israel is attacked, after the third temple has been built and the false prophet arrives. Are we still following scripture?


  95. Pr. Aaron


    We have to read the Word of God, but also have a prayer life, without which God’s revelations will not happen.
    The intimacy of the LORD is for those who fear him, to whom he will make known his covenant (Psalm 25:14)
    When we rudely defend our ideas, because people don’t think the same way as we do, it shows that we still need to put on the “sandals of humility” and seek more the Lord to learn more from Him.
    By the way you write defend your “thinking here, you will only be convinced that the Church will be tested in the Tribulation when you are going through it, therefore, it seems that it does not build much dialogue with you.
    This “tall horse” or “tall saddle” story does not appear to be a true Christian language!
    Brother Ed had to be a little tough to answer him. When we think we know everything and are not willing to learn, then we know nothing.

    Stay in The Lord Peace.

    Pr. Aaron

  96. Daniel Noah

    Ed L Ben …
    The book of Matthew chapter 24:2 ” And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? Verily I say to you , there shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. Jesus is telling the disciples that the Temple the buildings would be destroyed. This happened 37 years later.

    Then, Jesus jumps ahead 2,000yrs. to v.15 “When ye therefore shall see the abomintion of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place.”

    Daniel 9:27 “And he(Antichrist) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he(A/C) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.”
    The Antichrist will enter the temple at the 3.5 yr. mrk and declare that he is God. This what Jesus is talking about in Matthew 24:15 v. 21For then shall be great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.”

    Matthew 24:29-31 Immediately after the tribulation of those days….v. 30 “And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth morn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” v. 31 ” And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” The ‘elect’ here are now saved by the blood of Jesus. These Jewish believers are scattered Jews who are being brought to Jerusalem.

    Onto Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” This verse is directly tied to v. 33″ So, likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that he is near, even at the doors.”
    What people fail to realize, is that v. 32 has moved on from the end of the tribulation of verse 31, to a new teaching : an event which will transpire prior to the tribulation. The rapture…that’s what v. 36 is alluding to.. It is obviously, NOT speaking of of Jesus’ second coming, at the end of the tribulation,- when he throws O’bama and the pope into the lake of fire,- as everybody can know the second coming…it happens 7 yrs. after the 7 yr peace pact/covenant is confirmed by the Antichrist/O’bama.
    Jesus returns at The Feast of Tabernacles. Jesus was born at Tabernacles. Jesus returns to fulfill the last Jewish Feast… Tabernacles…to tabernacle/rule on earth for a thousand years.

    Matthew 24:37-41 ”But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming/arrival of the Son of man be.” everything from Noah’s day can be in play again. See Gen. 6.

    v38 ” For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and given in marriage, until the day Noah entered the ark.” Yes, I know Noe is the Greek of Noah. Your point? thank you.

    v.39 ” And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming/arrival of the son of man be.
    v.40 “:Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.”

    Verse 42 is the clincher; ” Watch therefore; for ye know not what hour your Lord doth cometh/arrive. You see? v.36 and v. 42 say the same thing. whereas, during the Tribulation, every BIBLE BELIEVER WILL KNOW THAT THE TRIBULATION ENDS AFTER 2520 DAYS FROM THE ANTICHRIST CONFIRMING THE COVENANT WITH MANY…. So do you get it? And your scribe friend PR Aaron the amazing Kreskin, know it all. Who knows that no one but him has a prayer life. A rude arrogant know it all. Jesus is not very happy with both of your illiterate rejection of His rapture of the 5 wise virgins. Since your both so against His rapture, maybe he will let you both stay and ride out the tribulation. For you both do err not knowing the scriptures and are too proud to admit that you have been wrong about your emotional rejection of Jesus’ rapture of the 5 wise virgins. It’s certainly absent any rudimentary Spock logic.

    You are teaching unbiblical nonsense! Your anti-rapture stance eats like gangrene. 2 Timothy 2:14 ” …charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, BUT THE SUBVERTING OF THE HEARERS”. That’s you Ed-L and your Pharisee friend Pr Aaron. Further v. 15 “Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman (Daniel-me)that needeth not be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.” v.`16 ” but shun profane and vain(that’s you Ed L/PR Aaron)babblings: for they will increase unto more…” stress for people. v. 17 And their word will eat as doth gangrene(not canker/cancer)in original Greek- Ed-L? Pr Aaron- a Hymenaeus and Philetus type stance, against Jesus’ plain speaking rapture.

    Ed-L you do not know your Greek, or the historicity of the Bible you read…this includes you too pr Aaron. You made so many sarcastic references as well…the hubris and arrogance is multiplied, especially when you are actually in error! I have waited(what 6 weeks) on the Lord, not trying to add strife to the equation. Jesus said to rebut your comments, as it affects the clear teaching of His rapture of the 5 wise virgins. Last point…read on, please, as I read your ignorant Pharisaical nonsense.

    We go to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8

    “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming/arrival of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    v.2 “That ye be not soon shaken or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that day of Christ is at hand.”
    v.3 ” Let no man deceive you(Ed-L/Pr Aaron)by any means; for that day shall not come, except there come ‘The Departure’ first, (The word is ‘apostasia’, which in Greek means ‘Departure’) And the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.’ Antichrist is the son of perdition. A falling away, is a recent (1611)mistake by KJV… by one expositor…w/o any reason stated for the historical change.

    The 1st seven translation from Greek manuscripts, all had ‘The departure’ absolutely NOT ‘a falling away’ which is a dangling participle if ever there was…how does one quantify ‘a falling away’ ? How far do you go ? ‘a falling away is an abstract…which is preceded by the definite article in Greek, which means that nit is a specific event.,
    The 1st seven English Bibles, which were rendered from Greek manuscripts:

    And last, but not least: The Latin Vulgate from 400 A.D., which translated ‘apostasia’ as discessio -DEPARTURE! the ‘apostasia’, precedes the un -veiling of the Antichrist:
    v. 4 “Who opposseth and exalteth himself-A/C, above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he-a/c, as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God,”
    v. 6 “And now ye know what withholdeth that hea/c might be revealed in his time.”
    v.7 “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only He (Holy Spirit)who now letteth will let, until He(Holy Spirit)be taken out of the way.” The Holy Spirit is taken out of the way? Yes, the dispensation of grace ends, with the Holy Spirits removal with the 5 wise virgins at the rapture. the The Father/The God of time and physics, inserts Daniel’s 70th week and the 7 yr. Tribulation starts, with the dispensation of law reinstituted. The two witnesses do not turn the other cheek…they light people up! Kill people.
    v. 8 “And then shall that wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of is coming/arrival “. If the Greek authors/translators wanted to connote ‘a falling away’, they would have used ‘pipto’, which means ‘I fall’ or ‘fall’ So, why did the writers use ‘apostasia’, instead of pipto, which be more in line if falling away was really there at it’s inception. I’m sorry, if one misses the rapture of the 5 wise virgins…
    Revelation 13:7 ‘And it was given unto him a/c to make war with the saints, and to overcome them(Kill them): and power was given him a/c over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.” It is my belief, that the USA will be destroyed(Rev. 18 -Babylon/USA)/(Rev.17 is Rome)directly after the rapture of the 5 wise virgins, at the 3 days of Darkness. See ‘Watchwoman’ on You Tube.

    You two geniuses had better get your act together, as Jesus does not like you deriding His scripture and especially His Rapture of the 5 wise virgins. During the Tribulation, people are still ‘Born Again’ though, 99% will die a martyrs death. There are so many prophecies about Christians in the Tribulation, as 90% will be left behind.
    Why? Clothing… Isaiah 61:10 “I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed mme with the garments of salvation, He hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.”
    Braced with this apparel, some will(In glorified immortal bodies)be used for a special assignment of a very special soul harvest…
    “Arise, shine. for thy light is come, and the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee.” v.2 ” For, behold, the darkness shall cover theearth, and gross darkness the people: but the Lord shall arise upon thee, and His glory shall BE SEEN UPON THEE.” That’s us, the 5 wise virgins. Daniel IHS

    • Ed L. benYHVH

      Dear Daniel,
      You make way too many assumptions. PLEASE read with understanding. That is to say, stay within the context applying the sematic of the Greek language for comprehension.

      When I teach prophecy I teach the basics first. Know ‘who’ is being addressed, ‘what’ is the subject, ‘when’ the text is put into context and ‘how.’ Pay special attention to figures of speech and linguistic characteristics. EVERY language has its own ‘parameters’, ‘characteristics’ or better said, the semantics. Are you a linguist & do you understand that? The Greek language (the writings of the New Testament) have specific semantics just like the English language.

      Let me provide an example for your illustration.
      In the Greek language the use of a conjunction (a word employed to unite, bind or adhere two thoughts, meanings, events or things) is the same as it is in English. The use of the words “and” is the most common and easiest to understand.

      If I told you I live in a bright green house AND it was on a corner lot AND it was three stories tall you would possess a full illustration. If you then search for this house and found a corner lot house that was 3 stories tall BUT purple in color, would you have met ALL 3 parameters or conditions? No, without the 3 parameters (bright green, corner lot & 3 stories) you can not ASSUME you found the house. The use of a conjunction combines the thought into one premise. Do you understand this? In the Greek language it is even more prevalent.

      Please keep this singular example in your mind about a conjunction. You will see why your assumption about the destruction of the temple in 70 AD is NOT what you think Jesus answered.

      Chapter 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

      The Temple was glorious and beautiful and the disciples pointed this out to Jesus Christ. Notice the conversation is between Jesus and His disciples. NO ONE else is privy to this conversation.

      2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

      Now you are ASSUMING Jesus was referring to 70 AD when then Roman Commander Titus destroyed the Temple there in Jerusalem. Here is where you error. EVEN if we assume what you are saying is correct, the disciples question Jesus about it as they learned about the end times. Remember the use of a conjunction; Greek semantics.

      3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? AND what shall be the sign of thy coming, AND of the end of the world? (emphasis added by myself)

      Now, applying the understanding of conjunctions more thoroughly that we just covered.
      Do you now understand that the disciples COMBINED, JOINED, the event by 3 parameters??? Those parameters are:
      1. The destruction of the Temple (what Jesus had just said to them)
      2. The “sign of His coming”
      3. The end of the world.

      In simple words, all 3 ideas, thoughts, events or parameters MUST be met in order to fulfill the singular event by definition of a conjunction. So did Jesus return in 70 AD when the temple was destroyed? NO, He did not return therefore the event is yet future.

      This is why many teachers, pastors, scholars and more are awaiting the rebuilding of the Temple for a 3rd time so as to be destroyed when Jesus Christ returns. I am one of those that know the scriptures and am watching Jerusalem intensely. This event will happen BEFORE the son of perdition can sit in the TEMPLE claiming to be God. You cannot have this event if there is no temple!

      Does this make sense to you? You cannot just assume, “Jesus jumps ahead 2,000yrs. to v.15”. That kind of injection is blatant wrong. You are assuming Jesus was speaking about Titus BUT He was not. Next 2 verse.

      4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

      5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

      Did Jesus say they were in error??? Throughout the New Testament, Jesus would tell people if they errored in the scriptures or even corrected them. Did His disciples make a mistake uniting the 3 ideas into one event? Nope. Jesus continued the thought and expanded on their question(s) without even a change in the Greek text. Linguistics have double and triple checked what I just proved to you. PERIOD! Read with understanding applying all your knowledge of the Greek language.

      Daniel, I mean no disrespect here. You appear to be a passionate Christian and I humbly appreciate that. Few of us left in this world. But do not read into the text what is not there.

      Because I explained this employment of a conjunction I will jump thoughts so that to cover 2 of your questions in 1 illustration. 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.

      Chapter 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

      Who, what, when, how in context. This letter from Paul to the Thessalonian church. In simple words, one Christian to a Christian church. This is important! The subject is stated in the first verse. The subject is the return of Christ AND our gathering back to Him. The dating of this letter is not in question. All scholars know that Jesus had already died and that Paul was writing after the fact. Therefore this is clearly future in nature. Again the Greek use of a conjunction is in play in these scriptures. Pay attention.

      2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

      The words “is at hand” is a Greek figure of speech known as an idiom. The exact words when used in a specific sequence have a meaning other that the actual words. In English an idiom is like, “Hit the books”, “Break a leg”, “Sit tight”, “Face the music” etc.
      Got it? In this text the words “is a hand” means to “occur soon” or “soon to be fulfilled.”
      Yes, like some Christians today the Thessalonians were thinking Jesus Christ was coming (returning) tomorrow. As scholars we record idioms throughout scriptures, compare the tense of the noun; an verb and match the application to other scriptures for validity. This example holds up to the scrutiny easily..

      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

      OK, see the use of a conjunction again???
      The “falling away” and the “son of perdition” are joined as in 1 thought or event. You cannot separate them at will. Regardless of your mention of prior texts carrying the Greek word for “depart” or “departure” instead of “falling away” it becomes a non-important point.

      In either case, the departure of Christians (subject and content of the writing) and the son of perdition are ‘combined’ as an event as stated by Paul AND come prior to Jesus return. This son of perdition will be in the Temple (which as of this date; September 22, 2020) is not yet built. Christians will NOT return since Christ will not return until these 2 combined event occur. Straight forward and simple.

      Look, I am so tired of Christians taking scriptures out of context of not applying sematic where it is essential to do so. No author in the Bible writes out of sequence. Imagine if I wrote a story where the sentences were all mixed up. It would be near impossible to follow a thought, instructions or a directive.

      Jesus, nor the other authors, all wrote in sequential order as the mind thinks. This is why I mentioned one verse following another verse and so on. I am not

      ” You are teaching unbiblical nonsense!”

      I read line upon line, and precept upon precept. (As Biblically instructed).
      I study to show myself approved (also as Biblically instructed).
      I reference the ENTIRE Bible and the passages ALL fit like a glove. (also required).

      How do you take things out of context you might inquire? The “Elect” in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 are not Jews! Where in the scriptures does Jesus say Jews??? Talk about implication without contextual application! Seriously, that is a huge stretch even for the most average reader!

      Oh, I have done a thorough study of the elect and the one argued by those from Isaiah 45:4. But that is because the “quoter’s” don’t understand who Jacob, the House of Israel and the House of Judah are nor do they understand any of there use throughout the major and minor prophets. It is replete within scriptures. Ok, enough.

      If any of this has helped others so be it. In the most basic of terms even Paul (who wrote 1 Thessalonians (where the rapture theory is) also wrote the 2nd letter which clearly indicates Jesus doesn’t return until the 2 events occur. SO like it or not we are here until then. The son of perdition will be in the temple. Explain that away.

      Lastly, so you should know. Yes, the earlier manuscripts employed the Greek word for depart in 2 Thessalonians. The word was update rather than changed to enhanced the meaning. Like if I said, “I sat in front of the machine” and you later changed it to say, “I sat in front of the computer.” Does it change the meaning or does it provide the reader with a more thorough description? In both examples the context remains unaltered. In this exact case the meaning is by implication EXACTLY the same. In other words, no scholar will back your argument that the meaning has changed or been altered. The content and context is irrefutable.


      “And mine hand shall be upon the prophets that see vanity, and that divine lies: they shall not be in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel; and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.”

  97. Ed L. benYHVH

    This last evening a thought came to me. Your words interested me.
    I have reread most of the thread; doubly on everything you have written. I surmise that you believe the rapture occurs at the 3 1/2 year mark of the anti-Christ reign. The prophetic time of the end.

    However, the problem remains contrarily with the sequence.

    Let’s look at Luke’s textual description of the same events as he speaks a little different from Matthew and Mark. I already explained the use of a conjunction (the word ‘and’) and the uniting of 2 or 3 ides into 1. We see it again here in verse 7. Therefore it is prophetic (future).

    Luke 21:12 But BEFORE all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name’s sake.

    The subject starts in verse 5 but I am proceeding to save time/space. The interesting part of this verse is Jesus is talking to His disciples (for they call Him ‘Master’ in verse 7) and says, “Ye.” Correctly translated means ‘you.’ Notice that prior to the events in verses 8-11, Jesus says, “BEFORE all these, they shall lay their hands on YOU.” (emphasis added). No where today do I hear churches teaching this point!
    Prior to ALL the tribulation and wars and earthquakes, some Christians will be persecuted. This is an undeniable verse. Some Christians (Jesus speaking to Christians here; context) will be persecuted for their faith even from the onset. NO rapture for them obviously. Do you (Daniel) teach this point???

    13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

    14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

    15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

    As we continue, notices how Luke is very precise. He uses the “you’ and “your” personal pronouns more than all the others. Again, the conversation is between Jesus Christ and Christians. We cannot simply interject other personage like gentiles, Pharisees or otherwise, unless they are named and indicated.

    16 And ye (you) shall be …
    17 And ye (you) shall be hated…
    18 …not a hair on your head…
    19 In your patience…
    20 And when ye (you) shall…
    21 Then let THEM which are…

    Who is THEM? Well, what has been the subject? Them would be Christians in Judea. Now please pay attention to the very next verse!

    22 For these be the days of vengeance, that ALL THINGS which are written may be fulfilled. (emphasis added)

    Here is Jesus connects the prophets and the events in chronological order for us. Here is the proof of the examples of ALL the major and minor prophets. (1 Cor 10:

    Verses that continue speak about the tribulation immediately after this. (Verse 23-26) It even speaks of the destruction of Jerusalem where the Gentile are named as those who “trodden”. So did the Christians rapture away???

    26 Men’s hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

    Heaven AND Earth are shaken! That is the tribulation time! SO crystal clear. Now notice the very next 2 verses and the uses the word ‘your’ again. That validate the idea that they (them & the you/your) are still here. Keep the scriptures in context.

    27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

    28 And when these things begin to come to pass, THEN LOOK UP, and lift up YOUR HEADS; for YOUR redemption draweth nigh. (emphasis added)

    Yes, this happens at the end. Christians are here during verse 22 which are the days of vengeance where ALL things which are written are fulfilled. Do you read this??? Even for a second witness to the disciples verse 31 confirms the same thought.

    31 So likewise YE (you), when YE (you) see these things come to pass, know YE (you) that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

    Nowhere does it imply people or personage other than Christians. The message is spoken by our Lord and addresses His disciples. Do not try to read into it. The use of words like then, before, you (ye) and your(s) make Luke’s version crystal clear. I do hope you stop thinking the few here that do not see the rapture (or gathering back to Jesus Christ) occurring until the end as wrong doers. I follow ALL the scriptures as directly as possible. The doctrine is man made and not around during the time of the writings.

    There is so much more but I feel I will not reach you. Please be at peace.

    ~Ed L. benYHVH

  98. Daniel Noah

    To All:
    The blessed hope:
    ” For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and the trump of God; and the dead in Christ shall rise again firstly: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words.” 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 …the trump of God?

    Exodus 19:16 ”..and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that were in the camp trembled.” v.19 and when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake and God answered him by a voice.” This event, heralded the dispensation of law. Whereas, this, the 1st trump of God instituted the dispensation of law, the second trump of God, by God The Father, announces an end to the dispensation of grace. God The Father reinstates the dispensation of law and thereby insert’s Daniel’s 70th week, upon the ‘confirming of the covenant’ by the Antichrist, one of the main signatories of same.`

    But, you ask, where is God the Holy Spirit in all this? Good question. God The Son, nailed the law to the cross. No longer justified by law, we are now justified by the blood our precious Jesus shed at the cross. And yet, all had to wait for the full force of enactment at Pentecost. The spirit of the law trumps the letter of the law, which is why Jesus violated the letter of the law many times, much to the astonishment and consternation of the Pharisees and Sadducees. The overt function of the Holy Spirit returns to just an individual action. Today, God The Holy Spirit is the restrainer corporally to check evil….until the rapture of the 5 wise virgins.
    One last point here: Exodus19;10 And the Lord said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their clothes, And be ready against the third day : for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.
    We, the 5 wise virgins, must have our clothes sanctified every day, because we don’t know the day or hour of the Lords return.
    Rapture ready: ” I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, He hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.” Isaiah 61:10 Not mount Sinai…but the clouds.

    The trump of dispensation again.

    1st Corinthians 15:51-52
    ” Behold I show you a mystery; we shall not all die, but we shall be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of the eye, at The Last Trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.”

  99. Rich Milo

    Daniel Noah I have been following this thread from the day that it has started. I must say that your insight on Bible prophecy concerning the “rapture question” is amazing. Your intellect and study on this subject obviously surpasses the off the cuff responses which you have been receiving on this thread. I have spent quite a few years studying “the rapture question” and you have cleared it up for me unequivocally. I have done an in depth study on each and every point that you have made concerning your position and I have concluded that there is no question based on scripture that you are undoubtedly correct. I would also like to say that there are a few people on this thread that seem to be showing signs of “anti Semitism” when debating with you about this subject. There are some folks who actually seem to believe that the blessings that God gave to the people of Israel have been deflected to the Church. Shame on them if this is true. Anyway god Bless you Daniel Noah for your incredible insight on this subject.

  100. Ed L. benYHVH

    Thank you brother Pr. Aaron for your comments. I am going to discontinue any further comments after this one. The delusion is of God and we will not break through to those. (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12) That is why I write hoping there are still others here that have ears to hear. That’s what this platform is about. Iron sharpening iron.

    Daniel Noah, some parting thoughts:

    I agree that 1 Corinthians 15:51-52 is about the gathering (rapture). I just wanted to point out that it happens at the LAST TRUMP. (Well, that is what the English and Greek says). I am presuming you believe that the 7th trump does not proceed the 5th and 6th trumps?

    5th trump being the release of Abaddon and his army out of the pit.
    (Revelation 9:1, 3, 7, 9, 11)

    6th trump being the 4 angels and their destruction like slaying a third of men, and so forth. Also the two witnesses and 42 month prophecy about Jerusalem (temple) being trodden under foot by the gentiles. It even mentions the great earthquake. (Revelation 9:13 thru 11:14)

    All this BEFORE the 7th trump of Revelation 11:15.

    Rapture scripture:
    1 Thessalonians 4:16
    “16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the TRUMP of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.”

    I’m glad you mentioned the trumpets. Which trumpet does Jesus Christ return at in the book of Revelation? It is the 7th and final trumpet.

    Incidentally, it is the only trumpet in the entire 24th chapter of Matthew (Matt 24:31) and is AFTER the appearance of the Messiah (Matthew 24:30-31). Also it is the same and ONLY Greek word used in all the scriptures quoted in the New Testament.

    Almost identical scriptures in Mark 13:26-27 and Luke 21:27-28

    I do find it interesting that you did not reply to the use of a conjunction as I spelled out in Matthew 24:3
    Maybe someone else here learned a little about Greek semantics.

    Ultimately, I guess if I am wrong I will be left here to contend with the events that transpire at the end of age. Well, Pr. Aaron and myself that is.
    I accept that. (You know its the only way to get a double blessing as promised in the entire Bible)

    However, if you are wrong, many Christians might run to the anti-Christ thinking they are going to be raptured away only to be in bed (become the bride) of the wrong Messiah. I would never want that on me. In fact, doesn’t the whole world whore after the false Christ? How is that if there are 90% of Christians left during the tribulation as you state. Just saying.


  101. Rich Milo

    Daniel Noah It seems as though at least 2 of your fellow debaters have conspired to not respond to you any longer. That is a shame. I guess that is what happens when you corner ignorance.

  102. Nettie

    Ed ben-YHWH,

    I was lead to this thread by the Spirit, given the understanding that there is something, some wisdom in a post in here, that would be used to open my understanding on some of my studyings. The moment I saw your post, I knew it was this one, and yes, I was given much insights. So thank you very very much for your longs posts and clarification.

    The Spirit works in mysterious ways, as I am not a pretrib or midtrib or such Rapture believer (just a gathering to Jesus when He returns believer). Like you, I tried many time getting people out of their hard headedness regarding dispensation, gentile and Jew, OSAS or such beliefs only to realise when God has given someone over to the deception of His choosing there is nothing any of us can do. It still amazes me though when confronted by the sheer arrogance of Americans (I am not an American and love my bretheren there but its unfortunately a fact, Americans are exeedingly arrogant as a group). 30 000 Children of under age 5 of my people, Christians, were killed by these same forces now gathering against the USA. Innocent Christian children. Were they raptured? No.

    60 million Russians were killed in their revolution, many were Christians. Were they raptured? No. 100 million Germans died in the wars, many taken captive to Serbia, and most were Christians. Were they raptured? No. Thousands of French Hugenots were killed. Were they raptured? No. But now that America will be destroyed, American Christians will be raptrued!! Making God’s Word that He deals FAIRLY and EQUALLY completely null and void.

    Because of course the nation called the Harlot who spread her iniquity worldover, will be favored by God Himself. (Sarcasm) Amazing, the arrogance of Americans. Alas, I am grateful for true Believers like you, Ed, from who I can still learn. Thank you. I am praying every day for what will pass through your country, as we know the depth of that evil very very well and what is coming is more horrific than what most will be able to stand. I thus pray that the true Believers will be spared much. And I pray for the Children. My heart is destroyed for what the children of this world will see and experience.

    Just one point I differ with you. Please contemplate this:
    God said and I paraphrase:
    “I will take your hearts of stone and give you hearts of flesh”.
    “I will built my city with Living Stones.”
    “Your body are the temple of God.”

    Thus, New Jerusalem is built with people who has softened hearts from God and in which He resides.

    Then also:
    “None of these stones will be left upon one another, it will all be thrown down.”

    God did it. Its not only a one-time prophecy. All prophecies have at least 2 fullfillments. A near, incomplete. And a far off, complete one. The Jews of those days believed when the Messiah comes, it is the END of time. Which it was. The end of THAT time. Jesus said the birthpains will herald another, New age to come. The end of THIS world, where Satan is the god of it, and the Kingdom where God will become the God of everyone. So there WAS an End of Time. And there will be again another End of Time. Four times, four seasons. Two has happened. Fall and winter. Spring is now almost complete and will end. Which will herald Summer. The last Age. “You will know summer is here, look up, your redemption draws near.”

    Just like Daniel Prophecied, the temple was rebuilt. It happened exactly at the time period as given to him. And then the stones were physically thrown down. But, it was incomplete as you say. Half of the prophecy. Not all elements yet. So another, far, full complete fullfillmenys awaits. Which will happen soon.

    So the stones to be thrown down is those who should have been a living stone but refused to receive a heart of flesh. They have hardened hearts. They will be trampled upon.

    Then, He said:
    “When you see the Abomination stand in the HOLY place”…..

    If a third temple is built, would God call it a HOLY place? When He said:
    “I do NOT live in temples built by human hands!!”

    So whether the antichrist builds a third temple or not is irrelevant. God will NOT call it a HOLY place, so it is NOT the event we need to look out for.

    So what IS a HOLY place? Everytime God visited the earth, like in the burning bush with Moses, He declared the “land upon which you stand is Holy”. So it is where GOD is present.

    So when the antichrist inserts Him into God’s Place, where God is living, THEN we know, this is the abomination. What form that will take place I am not yet sure. But it has something to do with Jesus being the Promised LAND. The Son of MAN, and man made of dust of the earth. Our souls belong to Jesus when we abide in Him. When we live in His Word, He waters our souls, our ground, and fruits of the Spirit results. So its all linked to earth, land, Holy Land. The abomination will result in destroying Jesus from our souls, our temples, our land. He also IS the Living Word. So He lives in His Word. The antichrist will change laws and seasons (or try to). He will change God’s Word about laws and seasons. 10 commandments to 7 Noahide laws. And seasons appointed as feast times. So Passover or such maybe.

    I hope this makes sense. So do not watch for an UNholy third temple as the sign. Whether it is built or not is not the start of that timing. They might think so and it will hopefully lead them to err on how much time they have. But we need to understand the truth. God will never ever bless such a third temple that dishonors what Jesus did and call that a Holy place.

  103. Ed L. benYHVH

    Dear Nettie,

    You should know that I had resolved to say nothing further. I think it is always better to listen than speak. At times I will write a considerable amount but always if so led to for Him. Winning an argument isn’t winning a soul. I am no better than another if I simply punch or hit someone harder.

    God be praised and always receive the glory! Thank you sister for your kind words. Anything I say that brings you (or anyone) closer to God is for His glory always. I will always say that wisdom is not of us but of Him and to that we are to proclaim it as so instructed. (Matt 25:14-28)

    You humble me. I am reminded that there are more refined (tried through the fire) believers outside the United States then inside. Christians are all members of the church, being brothers and sisters, regardless of their country or race. The United States has grown lazy, arrogant and self centered. God will correct them as He has corrected every nation that has turned from Him before. I gain no pleasure knowing people will die, suffer or endure troubles.

    I am best remembered by what I have told many students in my Sabbath classes. I say, “This is not home.” Our home is wherever God is. Yes, we live on this planet and do have a condo, hut, cave, house or otherwise but this is not home. Focus always on the creator not the creation.

    The quote about the heart of stone changed to a heart of flesh is Ezekiel 36. The message is to Israel. Please understand that I do not contend that a single country today is a specific tribe spoken of in the Old Testament of the bible. I believe that where the largest of the congregation of those people who represent the attributes of that tribe exist is where that tribe is best represented. We know the tribes are mentioned in latter times in the Old Testament (Genesis 49:1-2 of past, Revelation 7:1-8 of about current times, and Revelation 21:12 of the future city of Jerusalem gates) and in the New Testament too.

    Also I always quote Ezekiel 18 verse 4. Basically, all souls belong to God. There is no one person more value than another. Those Christians that have died in German or Russia or France or China are no less important than those is America or beyond. God is not a respecter of personage.(Romans 2:10-11)

    Now about the events of the Old Testament and the New Testament. Paul tells us that ALL things were done as examples for us. In fact, especially for those that are at the end of the age. (1 Cor 10:11) Here is the quote:

    11 Now all these things happened unto them for examples: and they are written for OUR admonition (as for rebuke or warning), upon whom the ENDS OF THE WORLD ARE are come. (Emphasis added and parenthetic statement added).

    You see, all the events of the past are examples, types, and illustrations for us to understand and apply toward the future. That is why I will always include the place in the bible for anyone to double check me and why the events of the past are only partially complete. This is why I explained the use of a conjunction (the word “and”) in the Greek to indicate the incomplete acknowledgement of the desecration of the temple. Yes, the Roman Titus did destroy the Jewish temple at Jerusalem in 70 AD but the end of the world did not occur nor did Jesus return. It is a type of the future to come.

    OK, now about the temple. Advance students or Christians who are willing to study deeper can see that the scriptures talk on a simple level and also speak on a deeper (spiritual) level. Here is how true understanding will envelope a believer.

    The temple of God is in everyone that accepts Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 3:16-17
    That is the spiritual level. On the physical level God allowed for a temple to be built for Him. That was the temple built twice in the city of Jerusalem. We know that the temple will be built again (physically) because the anti-Christ must sit in it claiming to be God.

    If you find time please read the entire 16th chapter of Ezekiel. God speaks of His wife, which is Jerusalem. This is the ONLY place in the entire Bible God loves and even makes a covenant with a city. He allows her to eventually be destroyed by her lovers who turn on her (yet future since the gentiles will trodden on her for a period of time) for cheating on Him. However, God is merciful and forgives her and RENEWS the covenant. It is a covenant FOREVER!! (Eze 16:60) This is why people need to pay attention to what is happening in Jerusalem. It is God’s chosen city where satan wants to be praised at. Very significant. It is also the geographic area that is only mentioned in all 3 prophetic gospels. (Matt 24:1-2 the temple; verse 15 Daniel’s quote of the holy place [Daniel 9:27]; and verse 17 as those that flee from Judea)

    As for Daniel 9:27 the temple is referenced in verse 25 stating:
    “25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.”

    Lastly, is not the new city of the very end of time a New Jerusalem?
    Revelation 21-22 (especially Revelation 21:2)

    Therefore, realize that we are a part of the temple in a spiritual sense. We will also witness the physical temple too. All things for His glory.

    Lastly, God will decide what is holy or not. His works are wonderful and only make us want to know the creator more. There is so much prophesy that I wish I could share but the ears are closed. I thank you for your time spent reading and conversing. May God bless you and yours.

  104. Nettie

    Thank you Ed. Again you have added to my understanding and studies. I think its wise not to burden people too much, and thus it is a good time to rap this up. But I wanted you to know that what you have written here is appreciated and has reached some ears. I will use it and study Ezekiel next. I felt it my next point for days and you have confirmed this. May God bless and keep you and yours. Take care of the children please. They WILL be coming for the children. They always do, it will be the same in the USA. There’s very specific reasons for it, which is not at all what people believe but I cannot discuss it on this site. Just remember this, and warn others as necessary. Do NOT trust them to have sympathy for the children. The children ARE their targets. Be safe.

  105. Ed L. benYHVH

    Thank you Nettie. We will all meet one day.May God be praised!
    Peace and patience always. Looking forward to the true Sabbath.

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